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<p>[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 10656945, member: 111"]Well, pondered on this for a while, then hunger hit and took time to make a nice little pizza, and now I'm stuffed and drowsy - but here are my thoughts:</p><p><br /></p><p>Like AJ, the design looks to me more German Jugendstil than Danish Skønvirke, and German makers definitely made .830 silver for the Danish market but seldom used the 'S' suffix. Can't say I know of a 'B.H.' German maker, but that means little since there were just so many.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've seen numerous Bernhard Hertz marks, serifed and sans-serif, with and without periods, stamped incuse like this and in a rectangular cartouche, they were prolific and in business for a long time - it looks like a Bernhard Hertz stamp but while a variety of other marks appear on their goods, that unusual italic '830S' is unfamiliar to me.</p><p><br /></p><p>Haven't seen any indication that Hertz retailed other makers goods when this piece was made, it's possible, but at the time they had a large factory in Copenhagen as well as a workshop in Stockholm, Sweden (their maker's mark there 'ABH').</p><p><br /></p><p>So, I have no definitive answer, and personally, if selling, would mention Bernard Hertz, but wouldn't firmly identify it as their production ('believed to be', 'attributed to', whatever)...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is another brooch with the same marks, and also looking more Jugendstil than Skønvirke (quite nice Swedish dealer, I've bought from them):</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://tniklassongallery.com/products/bernhard-hertz-denmark-art-nouveau-830-silver-butterfly-floral-brooch?srsltid=AfmBOooALRQXnSidWYXWeqgR_h01eezhjNd8kDUehGktlE3lT-5AOrji" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://tniklassongallery.com/products/bernhard-hertz-denmark-art-nouveau-830-silver-butterfly-floral-brooch?srsltid=AfmBOooALRQXnSidWYXWeqgR_h01eezhjNd8kDUehGktlE3lT-5AOrji" rel="nofollow">https://tniklassongallery.com/products/bernhard-hertz-denmark-art-nouveau-830-silver-butterfly-floral-brooch?srsltid=AfmBOooALRQXnSidWYXWeqgR_h01eezhjNd8kDUehGktlE3lT-5AOrji</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]533012[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That's all I've got.</p><p><br /></p><p>~Cheryl[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 10656945, member: 111"]Well, pondered on this for a while, then hunger hit and took time to make a nice little pizza, and now I'm stuffed and drowsy - but here are my thoughts: Like AJ, the design looks to me more German Jugendstil than Danish Skønvirke, and German makers definitely made .830 silver for the Danish market but seldom used the 'S' suffix. Can't say I know of a 'B.H.' German maker, but that means little since there were just so many. I've seen numerous Bernhard Hertz marks, serifed and sans-serif, with and without periods, stamped incuse like this and in a rectangular cartouche, they were prolific and in business for a long time - it looks like a Bernhard Hertz stamp but while a variety of other marks appear on their goods, that unusual italic '830S' is unfamiliar to me. Haven't seen any indication that Hertz retailed other makers goods when this piece was made, it's possible, but at the time they had a large factory in Copenhagen as well as a workshop in Stockholm, Sweden (their maker's mark there 'ABH'). So, I have no definitive answer, and personally, if selling, would mention Bernard Hertz, but wouldn't firmly identify it as their production ('believed to be', 'attributed to', whatever)... Here is another brooch with the same marks, and also looking more Jugendstil than Skønvirke (quite nice Swedish dealer, I've bought from them): [URL]https://tniklassongallery.com/products/bernhard-hertz-denmark-art-nouveau-830-silver-butterfly-floral-brooch?srsltid=AfmBOooALRQXnSidWYXWeqgR_h01eezhjNd8kDUehGktlE3lT-5AOrji[/URL] [ATTACH=full]533012[/ATTACH] That's all I've got. ~Cheryl[/QUOTE]
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