Cameo Signature Help Needed

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Bronwen, May 30, 2019.

  1. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Where was he when working in coal mine(s)?
     
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  2. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Franklin, Illinois.
     
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    Jivvy the research is my favorite

  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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    Jivvy the research is my favorite

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  6. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Given the suspicion that not all "Mouhé" are one Mouhé, could the first listing above include two other cameo-cutters? "nacrier" and "objets en nacre"

    Or are they doing something else entirely? Or perhaps it's unclear.
     
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  7. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    What KSW said!!!

    I'm just getting going for the day. Not sure I can take the shock!

    I feel let down by the BnF for not producing this one in a search for 'Mouhé graveur', when it did produce the 1881 volume where we got good info when looking for the Schmolls. I had seen the wine merchant.

    I would say the graveur & the nacrier are different people; the question is whether there were 2 nacriers or only 1 with 2 addresses. Good chance they are related: Mouhé is not such a common name; engraving shell and making things of MOP are closely related occupations. Not surprised to see the graveur of 1855 also worked with hardstone; the best of the shell pieces exhibit the degree of skill required.

    Bon. Mouhé. Now: more than one graveur? Or one with a variable way of writing J?
     
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  9. KSW

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    What KSW said!!!

    I'm just getting going for the day. Not sure I can take the shock!
    Sorry, I quoted the wrong paragraph and couldn't delete it!
     
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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I figured, but quoting it did a good job of expressing my speechlessness. :)
     
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  11. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I'm at about 98% for "more than one."
     
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  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    There's a Mouhé signature that is strictly cursive & another that is closer to printing. Think I'm at 100% that there are at least 2.
     
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  14. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    @Jivvy Maybe you can find the alleged 1857. I only see what might be 57 because I've ben told it's there:

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    Meanwhile, @kyratango would you mind doing an Internet search from there to see if Google will give different results for Mouhé + any of these words: graveur; coquillage; pierre; camée. Jivvy & I suspect it may like you better. :)
     
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  15. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Here to serve, even before you ask it. :woot::hilarious:
     
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  16. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  17. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I'm convinced, but the resolution of the jpg is so very bad, I'm afraid I can't do much more with it.
     
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  18. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Just tried... internet keeps on giving either mouche (bzz bzz:hilarious:) or modern camées makers/sales:arghh::banghead::muted:
    Tried 19e siecle MOUHÉ... still results showing mouche:rolleyes::dead:

    Anyway, this acertain my lack of research skills, and my grumpiness :vamp:about those results:oops::shy:
     
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  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Ma chère, You can tell the search engine which words you do not want to find by adding them with a negative sign after the words you do want: Mouhé graveur -mouche

    I am getting inconsistent results from Google using the same terms in separate windows. I't like a treasure hunt. Looking for Mouhé, found a little more about Schmoll. Maybe you will find the golden egg. :kiss::kiss:
     
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  20. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Graveurs 1855 A-D.jpg

    This is the 1855 Almanach. Now we have the Schmoll Brothers, presumably one of the family shops, & a number of engravers with an asterisk after the name, at various addresses. Does this mean the shop carried the work of these engravers? Or they made work for the Schmolls?
     
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