Featured CAMEOS: Show & Tell or Ask & Answer

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Bronwen, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    @Figtree3 I'm wondering if it's painted porcelain...
     
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  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    It does not look like a cameo to me. I'm probably misreading it altogether, but think it's a photo of a small child.

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    Other thoughts, anybody?

    Edit: Maybe Sarony also took the photo in the brooch?
     
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  3. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    That's another possibility, yes. :)
     
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  4. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    When I looked at it before, I believe I discussed it in a Facebook group for photo collectors and the tendency was to think it was a photo. But then, these were photo people! I don't think I've discussed it here before because I had not resized the original scan until this morning.
     
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  5. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    That would be really interesting. Too bad I'll never know!
     
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  6. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I see a young woman with an "up-do", back to us, but looking over her left shoulder at us.
     
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  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Photo or miniature on porcelain? Pretty sure cameo can be ruled out.
     
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  8. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    While fully realizing I don't have enough information to be unequivocal, I'm very strongly in the painted porcelain camp. :p
     
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  9. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The Getty holds such marvelous things. Thanks for showing us this one. As their page says:

    This piece used a technique known as commesso --referring to the process by which stones were "committed" or attached together like a jigsaw puzzle--that was often used to restore ancient gems.

    Some commesso pieces are more cameo-like than others, but we cameo junkies are happy to appropriate them to our camp.

    Mary Magdalen, Miseroni workshop:

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    Queen Victoria, Paul Lebas:
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  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    'Committed' is really a secondary meaning. If you are familiar with any of the Romance languages, you will recognize that the fundamental meaning is 'put together'.
     
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  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Here's your girl with a little more paint:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/372421217368

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  13. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Well, so she is! thanks -- the setting is different, but definitely the same otherwise.
     
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  14. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  16. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

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  17. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Can't really imagine what that life was like. The record of ownership is preserved; what I would like to know is where the stone came from, who cut it, who designed & made the mount, etc. More & more I'm seeing scholarly papers in the field of collectors & collections. Doesn't seem to have an 'ology' name yet. My suggestion of 'acquisitology' has not been taken up.
     
  18. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Hoarding works.:smuggrin:

    I'm not seeing anything like that either. Somebody who knew what he was doing, that's all I know. I'm betting it came from a major jewelry house, and was worn on a Worth dress. It may not have any markings at all.
     
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  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Yes, as we know, so much older jewellery is not marked in any way. Masterfully carved cameos with not a hint of who cut them are one of the despairs of my existence. Sometimes what is known about the makers of luxury goods comes from their owners' detailed financial accounts and/or inventories that have survived.
     
  20. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    cam 001.JPG cam 002.JPG
    Is there better names? Looks like Emy?
     
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