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<p>[QUOTE="Sunny G., post: 10536172, member: 93010"]I have a few, all helmet shell. I try to take pictures before and after cleaning them, but they get buried in my phone <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/confused.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" /> Here's the better one of my Silz-Schmolls I mentioned:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]529453[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>A maenad, I think. The cracks on the left don't go all the way through. I like her proportions and how the thinness of the carving around the eye creates a shadowy effect that's unfortunately hard to capture in a picture.</p><p><br /></p><p>And here's my favorite cameo that I own:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]529461[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>A small brooch that might depict Ariadne--or was intended to depict Ariadne, I think. No ivy leaf crown, but the mount has ivy leaf details. I was really taken with the hairstyle and spent quite a while looking into it before I found that it's often associated with Ariadne, and then I was curious as to why. I found that with ancient sculptures, some show Ariadne with her hair in a bun and some have the neat coils along with it, but the split-bun-with-coils-and-longer-waves style seemed to get associated with her more often in depictions that were made during or after the 18th century (impressions and <a href="https://collections.mfa.org/objects/89/dionysos-and-maenad?ctx=47cd60fe-bf29-4684-bbea-dcb6d7df6a2a&idx=19" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://collections.mfa.org/objects/89/dionysos-and-maenad?ctx=47cd60fe-bf29-4684-bbea-dcb6d7df6a2a&idx=19" rel="nofollow">sculptures</a>, though there's usually some debate on if the intention was Ariadne or a maenad). There's a <a href="https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/art-artists/work-of-art/cast-of-a-bust-of-bacchus" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/art-artists/work-of-art/cast-of-a-bust-of-bacchus" rel="nofollow">bust</a> in the Royal Academy of Arts collection that's a cast of a Roman copy of a Greek original of what is now believed to be Bacchus but was identified for a time as Ariadne. A similar note also pops up in the <a href="https://arkivet.thorvaldsensmuseum.dk/articles/ropps-commission-1804-05" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://arkivet.thorvaldsensmuseum.dk/articles/ropps-commission-1804-05" rel="nofollow">Thorvaldsen</a> museum archive account of a commissioned recreation of the Roman marble bust:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://fotoarkivet.thorvaldsensmuseum.dk/imgs/f6/2f/3718/collection/Bacchus.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>It makes me wonder if the apparently misidentified bust influenced how Ariadne was depicted, or if maybe it was the other way around and there are other depictions of Ariadne in a similar style that I haven't come across that led to the bust being identified as her originally. A few sources say that the Roman bust that was copied is at the Capitoline Museums, but I haven't found any pictures of it. I learned a lot about Ariadne's tale and the variations of how it's told while wandering down this rabbit hole, including an interesting tangent about Libera as Persephone and/or deified Ariadne. Still really love the hairstyle and the piece whether or not it's Ariadne, a maenad, Bacchus, or actually none of them at all.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sunny G., post: 10536172, member: 93010"]I have a few, all helmet shell. I try to take pictures before and after cleaning them, but they get buried in my phone :confused: Here's the better one of my Silz-Schmolls I mentioned: [ATTACH=full]529453[/ATTACH] A maenad, I think. The cracks on the left don't go all the way through. I like her proportions and how the thinness of the carving around the eye creates a shadowy effect that's unfortunately hard to capture in a picture. And here's my favorite cameo that I own: [ATTACH=full]529461[/ATTACH] A small brooch that might depict Ariadne--or was intended to depict Ariadne, I think. No ivy leaf crown, but the mount has ivy leaf details. I was really taken with the hairstyle and spent quite a while looking into it before I found that it's often associated with Ariadne, and then I was curious as to why. I found that with ancient sculptures, some show Ariadne with her hair in a bun and some have the neat coils along with it, but the split-bun-with-coils-and-longer-waves style seemed to get associated with her more often in depictions that were made during or after the 18th century (impressions and [URL='https://collections.mfa.org/objects/89/dionysos-and-maenad?ctx=47cd60fe-bf29-4684-bbea-dcb6d7df6a2a&idx=19']sculptures[/URL], though there's usually some debate on if the intention was Ariadne or a maenad). There's a [URL='https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/art-artists/work-of-art/cast-of-a-bust-of-bacchus']bust[/URL] in the Royal Academy of Arts collection that's a cast of a Roman copy of a Greek original of what is now believed to be Bacchus but was identified for a time as Ariadne. A similar note also pops up in the [URL='https://arkivet.thorvaldsensmuseum.dk/articles/ropps-commission-1804-05']Thorvaldsen[/URL] museum archive account of a commissioned recreation of the Roman marble bust: [IMG]https://fotoarkivet.thorvaldsensmuseum.dk/imgs/f6/2f/3718/collection/Bacchus.jpg[/IMG] It makes me wonder if the apparently misidentified bust influenced how Ariadne was depicted, or if maybe it was the other way around and there are other depictions of Ariadne in a similar style that I haven't come across that led to the bust being identified as her originally. A few sources say that the Roman bust that was copied is at the Capitoline Museums, but I haven't found any pictures of it. I learned a lot about Ariadne's tale and the variations of how it's told while wandering down this rabbit hole, including an interesting tangent about Libera as Persephone and/or deified Ariadne. Still really love the hairstyle and the piece whether or not it's Ariadne, a maenad, Bacchus, or actually none of them at all.[/QUOTE]
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