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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 11892976, member: 5833"]I can see her special appeal. I agree that she appears modeled on an actual woman, one who is beginning to develop a double chin (a bit like Queen Victoria) & whose nose is not as straight as a ruler, so she seems almost alive. The hair & ivy leaves are very crisply done, with great depth. Although she departs in some ways from convention, I would consider her an Ariadne type, Ariadne getting on for middle age.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, I think she & others, including the ones I call "noblewomen", date to the last 20 years of the 19th century & for a little time into the 20th. I also hypothesize that they are the products of multiple hands in workshops. They bear an assortment of numbers & letters on the back. I imagine the numbers as belonging to apprentices & journeymen, with only the artist & perhaps the most skilled assistant, leaving their initials or name.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is a competent noblewoman type from my collection:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]549772[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>On the reverse there are a profusion of marks, some of them scratched out, with a not-quite-legible surname in the middle:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]549773[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Surely the marks record the hands the piece passed through on its way to completion. I also suspect that German workshops were the source of some of them.</p><p><br /></p><p>I looked at your marks both ways around:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]549774[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]549775[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The central mark could be TT. They are not European 7s.</p><p><br /></p><p>While I think your lady is extremely nice, I think Antonio Vergé can be ruled out as the author.</p><p><br /></p><p>Coincidentally, I just acquired an Ariadne type myself. She does not have the personality of yours; her profile is a standard idealized one. If I can get any decent photos I will show her. She also has an assortment of marks on the reverse.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 11892976, member: 5833"]I can see her special appeal. I agree that she appears modeled on an actual woman, one who is beginning to develop a double chin (a bit like Queen Victoria) & whose nose is not as straight as a ruler, so she seems almost alive. The hair & ivy leaves are very crisply done, with great depth. Although she departs in some ways from convention, I would consider her an Ariadne type, Ariadne getting on for middle age. However, I think she & others, including the ones I call "noblewomen", date to the last 20 years of the 19th century & for a little time into the 20th. I also hypothesize that they are the products of multiple hands in workshops. They bear an assortment of numbers & letters on the back. I imagine the numbers as belonging to apprentices & journeymen, with only the artist & perhaps the most skilled assistant, leaving their initials or name. This is a competent noblewoman type from my collection: [ATTACH=full]549772[/ATTACH] On the reverse there are a profusion of marks, some of them scratched out, with a not-quite-legible surname in the middle: [ATTACH=full]549773[/ATTACH] Surely the marks record the hands the piece passed through on its way to completion. I also suspect that German workshops were the source of some of them. I looked at your marks both ways around: [ATTACH=full]549774[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]549775[/ATTACH] The central mark could be TT. They are not European 7s. While I think your lady is extremely nice, I think Antonio Vergé can be ruled out as the author. Coincidentally, I just acquired an Ariadne type myself. She does not have the personality of yours; her profile is a standard idealized one. If I can get any decent photos I will show her. She also has an assortment of marks on the reverse.[/QUOTE]
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