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<p>[QUOTE="nick1998, post: 11894000, member: 97611"]It never occurred to me that the prototype could be Ariadne until now. Very interesting idea, maybe I missed it because of the lacking of spiral hair. Also I guess It could be a deviation from bachus/bacchante as well. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I do agree 1800-1850 might be too early for the image, yet I would more willingly put it around 1850, at least before the 80s. The reason I think it that way is the difference in the scoring. Let’s make a comparison. Below is an Ariadne that’s probably 1880 or later, just like the noblewoman example given above. I think during the late 80s era new tools was adopted by most workshops just as we discussed earlier about Filippo Vergé’s case. It provides more steady force as carving tool through some kind of machinery structure and allow a fast pace of producing hardstone cameos. This must gained favor of most engravers, be it Italy, French, German or British, because faster production means efficiency and commercial success in this period. The only problem is that engravers have comparatively less control of the force on the tools than the older way. As can be observed from the Ariadne example below, as well as most later 80s cameos, the cuts became shallower, and most importantly, because of the steady force provided, they bear scorings that looks uniformed, identical, and sometimes even seems like they’re repeating themselves. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]549784[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]549785[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>On the other hand, this Lady here presents irregular scorings that varying in depths and shapes, which probably implies a relatively primitive tool being used. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]549786[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]549787[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>It could be possible that such “out-dated” method was still adopted by some workshops in the 80s, but I see no point of choosing this less efficiency way of doing business unless for providing unusual private commission.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="nick1998, post: 11894000, member: 97611"]It never occurred to me that the prototype could be Ariadne until now. Very interesting idea, maybe I missed it because of the lacking of spiral hair. Also I guess It could be a deviation from bachus/bacchante as well. I do agree 1800-1850 might be too early for the image, yet I would more willingly put it around 1850, at least before the 80s. The reason I think it that way is the difference in the scoring. Let’s make a comparison. Below is an Ariadne that’s probably 1880 or later, just like the noblewoman example given above. I think during the late 80s era new tools was adopted by most workshops just as we discussed earlier about Filippo Vergé’s case. It provides more steady force as carving tool through some kind of machinery structure and allow a fast pace of producing hardstone cameos. This must gained favor of most engravers, be it Italy, French, German or British, because faster production means efficiency and commercial success in this period. The only problem is that engravers have comparatively less control of the force on the tools than the older way. As can be observed from the Ariadne example below, as well as most later 80s cameos, the cuts became shallower, and most importantly, because of the steady force provided, they bear scorings that looks uniformed, identical, and sometimes even seems like they’re repeating themselves. [ATTACH=full]549784[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]549785[/ATTACH] On the other hand, this Lady here presents irregular scorings that varying in depths and shapes, which probably implies a relatively primitive tool being used. [ATTACH=full]549786[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]549787[/ATTACH] It could be possible that such “out-dated” method was still adopted by some workshops in the 80s, but I see no point of choosing this less efficiency way of doing business unless for providing unusual private commission.[/QUOTE]
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