Can anyone ID this. I am not sure if it is Native or not.

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by J.L.B., Feb 5, 2019.

  1. J.L.B.

    J.L.B. Member

    So today while magnet fishing my friend and I found this mask. It is not made of metal, (possibly porcelain) and was in a shallow brook. I'm not sure if it is Native American or not however it does appear to be really old.

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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    not NA , with those markings....
     
  3. J.L.B.

    J.L.B. Member

    I honestly have no idea what it could be.
     
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  4. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    just a thought... unusual Venetian?
     
  5. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Can you show the other side, please?
     
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  6. Taupou

    Taupou Well-Known Member

    I agree, definitely not Native American, and not "really old," just over-fired.

    It appears to be a reddish-brown clay (which rules out the possibility of it being porcelain), which was glazed (ruling out it being Native American, as well, since they didn't use glaze on their pottery.)

    The glaze was either put on too thick, or it was fired too long or too hot, causing it to bubble up. The resulting irregular shaped bubbles broke, leaving little sharp glass-like edges.

    It may have been an art class project, or a studio pottery project, that obviously didn't work out as intended, and was thrown away, ending up in the brook.
     
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  7. J.L.B.

    J.L.B. Member

    May take me a few but I will try to get a pic.
     
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  8. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    We'll be here! :cat:
     
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  9. J.L.B.

    J.L.B. Member

  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Now, photo's are funny critters...but , that's a well executed rear & u don't see that often on a mask...that wasn't made for wear.
    I'm seeing what looks like a hard wood, but if you say it's some ceramic....I'm OK with that too.
    I think this bears further investigation.....
     
  11. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Id guess 1970s studio pottery. I think its awesome,very tactile .
     
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  12. J.L.B.

    J.L.B. Member

    Not wood I know that for sure. I am going to bring to a local antique dealer and see what they think. Hard to tell from a photo I know.
     
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  13. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    I hope you will post any information they give you. :)
    It’s very interesting. :)
     
  14. J.L.B.

    J.L.B. Member

    Of course. Hoping to maybe find out something this weekend.
     
  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    no offense, but unless the dealer has a tribal knowledge, I'd think it outside his purview.
    No signature or makers marks at all...?
     
  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Oh...& by tribal....I guess I could include dance masks from different countries.
     
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  17. J.L.B.

    J.L.B. Member

    No offense taken. No markings anywhere. I figure if I start with a dealer they may be able to point me in the direction of someone who may know more.
     
  18. iPacific

    iPacific Member

    Looks like a recently made decorative wall mask made more interesting by time spent underwater.
     
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  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    so far we're stumped.........go for it !!!:happy:
     
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  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Very decorative, JLB.
    I agree. Possibly home decorated Venetian style. If you think of the 'face' itself without the decoration, it looks very European.
    There are a few European tribal cultures, but they don't make masks like this.
     
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