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<p>[QUOTE="komokwa, post: 725766, member: 301"][USER=11206]@Karahbell[/USER] </p><p>Don't let anyone take those off you..<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie90" alt=":stop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie90" alt=":stop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie90" alt=":stop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />... Granny knew her stuff..<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie99" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie99" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie99" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />....at least for 2 of them......& you know what Meatloaf says... " 2 outta 3, ain't bad !</p><p><br /></p><p>The thick tray is a Hopi bundle coiled Yucca item...</p><p>Woven for centuries by the Hopi Women of Second Mesa, ceremonial baskets or trays were given as gifts as thanks for the blessings received during the year.</p><p><br /></p><p>The women who wove these treasures would have gathered the natural material from their environments. The designs were of animals, geometric shapes, or most commonly of Katsina images - the spirit essences of of things in the Hopi universe.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now Kara....u have information that I don't.....so I will not guess at it's age...or value......but it's searchable.....</p><p>You also leave out size...where you're located, where she got em...and a condition report......so take what I offer next with a grain of salt....</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, I am not poo pooing on the Hopi....BUT...The other two...... wow....<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/rolleyes.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>the domed tray.......Yavapai Apache pictorial ....antique.........sweeeeeeeeeet !!!!!</p><p><a href="https://www.icollector.com/Yavapai-Western-Apache-Basket-Tray_i28933547" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.icollector.com/Yavapai-Western-Apache-Basket-Tray_i28933547" rel="nofollow">https://www.icollector.com/Yavapai-Western-Apache-Basket-Tray_i28933547</a></p><p>( just for comparison..)</p><p><br /></p><p>The Olla....or vase shaped basket......... Apache pictorial ...antique...lovely !!</p><p><br /></p><p>Most Apache baskets were made by the women of the San Carlos and White Mountain bands, but the jicarilla, Mescalero, and Chiricahua Apaches also did basketry.</p><p><br /></p><p>Value is determined by beauty, a complex mix of qualities that are subjective and objective, as variable as their shapes and materials. </p><p>The material from which a basket is made determines its design and colour, as well as which technique - plaiting, twining or coiling - is used to produce it. Fibres include stripped branches of shrubs - especially willow branches, straw, bark, grass, roots, pine needles and rushes - in fact, any strong, slender pliable vegetable fibres. These are well tended, gathered at the proper time and then peeled, shaped, aged, softened and trimmed to size, which is necessary before starting to make a basket. Yucca root yields deep red. Sharp-thorned devil’s claw produces highly desirable brown to black for "negative designs." Willow shoots are originally white, but age through to yellow from oxidation from sun and air.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Hopi........$$$</p><p>The Apache tray......$$$$</p><p>The Olla............... possibly.......$$$$$ ....if not ..then...$$$$</p><p><br /></p><p>I've been dealing in and loving NA Baskets for almost 30 years....but let's wait for the "expert" to chime in.....or for that matter...any of the many experts we have here !! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie49" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie49" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie49" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>cuz I could be all wet.............................................but don't bet on that !!!<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="komokwa, post: 725766, member: 301"][USER=11206]@Karahbell[/USER] Don't let anyone take those off you..:stop::stop::stop:... Granny knew her stuff..:woot::woot::woot:....at least for 2 of them......& you know what Meatloaf says... " 2 outta 3, ain't bad ! The thick tray is a Hopi bundle coiled Yucca item... Woven for centuries by the Hopi Women of Second Mesa, ceremonial baskets or trays were given as gifts as thanks for the blessings received during the year. The women who wove these treasures would have gathered the natural material from their environments. The designs were of animals, geometric shapes, or most commonly of Katsina images - the spirit essences of of things in the Hopi universe. Now Kara....u have information that I don't.....so I will not guess at it's age...or value......but it's searchable..... You also leave out size...where you're located, where she got em...and a condition report......so take what I offer next with a grain of salt.... Now, I am not poo pooing on the Hopi....BUT...The other two...... wow....:rolleyes: the domed tray.......Yavapai Apache pictorial ....antique.........sweeeeeeeeeet !!!!! [URL]https://www.icollector.com/Yavapai-Western-Apache-Basket-Tray_i28933547[/URL] ( just for comparison..) The Olla....or vase shaped basket......... Apache pictorial ...antique...lovely !! Most Apache baskets were made by the women of the San Carlos and White Mountain bands, but the jicarilla, Mescalero, and Chiricahua Apaches also did basketry. Value is determined by beauty, a complex mix of qualities that are subjective and objective, as variable as their shapes and materials. The material from which a basket is made determines its design and colour, as well as which technique - plaiting, twining or coiling - is used to produce it. Fibres include stripped branches of shrubs - especially willow branches, straw, bark, grass, roots, pine needles and rushes - in fact, any strong, slender pliable vegetable fibres. These are well tended, gathered at the proper time and then peeled, shaped, aged, softened and trimmed to size, which is necessary before starting to make a basket. Yucca root yields deep red. Sharp-thorned devil’s claw produces highly desirable brown to black for "negative designs." Willow shoots are originally white, but age through to yellow from oxidation from sun and air. The Hopi........$$$ The Apache tray......$$$$ The Olla............... possibly.......$$$$$ ....if not ..then...$$$$ I've been dealing in and loving NA Baskets for almost 30 years....but let's wait for the "expert" to chime in.....or for that matter...any of the many experts we have here !! :happy::happy::happy: cuz I could be all wet.............................................but don't bet on that !!!;)[/QUOTE]
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