Featured Carlsbad porcelain plates - can anyone date these

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  1. Ronald Paul

    Ronald Paul New Member

    20230405_134433 - Copy.jpg 20230406_080833 - Copy.jpg I can find a lot of very similar plates with an image of Napolean but not these.
    The are approximately 10.75 inches in diameter
    Thank you
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2023
  2. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I can't add too that ....but boy do they all seem to be having a good time !!!!!!!

    I think wine was stronger back then..! :hungover::hungover::hungover::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
  4. Ronald Paul

    Ronald Paul New Member

    Thank you. I will have to unpack the plates to get a full shot of the bottom - will do so later. 20230405_134441 - Copy.jpg 20230405_134446 - Copy.jpg
     
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  5. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I'd say bacchanal (or bacchanantes) for the subject matter.
     
  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Bacchanalian scenes. Female figures are called bacchantes (or maenads in Greek). Because depictions differ, I'm not sure whether the artist had any of the male figures in mind to be Bacchus (Dionysus) himself. The young man would be considered a faun, one of the conventional members of the 'revel rout'. I suspect the [MOS got in here] mature, skin-girt guy is meant for the god himself, although to me he looks more like another companion, Silenus, who is often shown tipsily plodding along on the donkey, not leading it, as he does on the plate. This is a typical representation of this gang:

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  7. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Could be from a larger series with a center piece showing the major figures.
     
  8. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    The decorator's mark for Friedrich Simon, Karlsbad FSC is shown in Rontgen's book of marks and he dates it around 1920.

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  9. Ronald Paul

    Ronald Paul New Member

    very interesting - thank you all
     
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    Ronald Paul New Member

  11. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

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  13. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Apr 8, 2023
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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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  15. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    It would have to be post 1919 as Czechoslovakia was "created" after WW1.
     
  16. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    My brain automatically goes to perfume bottles. :p:p:p

    BTW I am on a desktop so it wasn't auto-correct my brain just automatically goes to perfume bottles. :p:p:p :D:D:D :hilarious:
     
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  17. Ronald Paul

    Ronald Paul New Member

    good point - ty
     
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  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:......;):beaver:
     
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