Featured Carved wooden figure- comments

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  1. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    DDBEB673-73B2-4C07-BB63-35925E8427F7.jpeg E863C3C3-F10A-4D99-848F-C62104BA059A.jpeg 863DD0C8-90C5-44DA-A840-DADA07002F4C.jpeg AB8352E4-A61D-4D45-A3D6-BDCD0C82257C.jpeg 7223B5AC-182F-407D-AB54-D36CF614B164.jpeg 0BF281DE-3CC9-4FFB-B41A-186398B4E5C6.jpeg Hi all,being in South Africa,I see a a lot of wood carvings and ‘tribal’ things/figurines made for the tourist/souvenir market. However I found this ‘2 faced’ one rather interesting and different (also it looks to have some age)

    I know we’ve had many African wood carvings on the forum before (so I had a look at some of the previous threads) Have we had one similar to this before? It is 22 cm in length. Any ideas to origin? Age? Is it African?

    Thank you for any comments.
     
  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    a Janus carving........ I can't place it...:sorry:
     
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  3. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    One side sad, one side happy? That's a common enough motif/device.
     
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  4. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Appreciate it. Thanks for the reply and lead.
     
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  5. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Can it be one side man and one side woman?
     
  6. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Taking your lead I found only ‘somewhat’ similar (I think) from D.R Congo? Something like a Janus figure- Luba Zela? Or A power half figure ‘Kakudji’ Not sure Iam on the right track..
     
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  7. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    I agree it looks 'good'-- the straightness of grain of the wood indicates a more mature, old tree, and older trees were generally cut down longer ago, suggesting an older piece.

    The patina looks better than your run-of-mill piece, too.

    My totally uninformed guess would be more Oceania than African, but others'll know more than me.
     
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  8. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Many thanks. I appreciate your opinion regarding possible age. Interesting comment/observation regarding the grain of the wood and tree age. I will also search in the ‘Oceania’ direction.
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It could be from one of the (sub)tribal peoples in Eastern Indonesia.

    Disclaimer::playful: I don't know much about tribal Indonesia, I only come across Indonesian tribal art every now and then. My focus is on the culture in a number of (former) kingdoms and principalities in what is now Indonesia.

    Indonesia has over 17500 islands and an enormous diversity of cultures. The way these cultures are organised ranges from small nomadic family groups to very complexly structured kingdoms. This means that their art and artifacts have the same broad range.
    It takes several lifetimes to know every single one of these cultures.
     
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  10. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Many thanks for the reply AJ. That unfortunately sounds like a ‘needle in a hay stack’ scenario with so many islands and diverse tribes/cultures. Any guess as to possible age?
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The different cultures are very distinct and recognizable. I just don't know all of them because my focus is on (parts of) Western Indonesia, rather than tribal Eastern Indonesia. There is a huge difference between those regions.

    Maybe @2manybooks recognizes the style.
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Buka Island Bougainvile Region, Solomon Islands"

    try looking around here........
    I'm just throwing it out there......

    your carving.....primative in nature , but I don't see a tourist quality , looks like more of a personal item....and these can be very hard to place with a regular google search...:sorry:
     
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  13. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Don't see why not, but I think I'd take Any Jewelry's information. I'm the one who makes WAGs and off-the-cuff comments.;):D
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Which wasn't much and may not be correct.:shame:
     
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  15. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Understood. Thanks again AJ
     
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  16. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Ok great. I will give it a search and maybe get lucky. True it does
    have a rather primitive look.
    Thanks for the comments and suggestion Komo.
     
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  17. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    If you say so :)
     
  18. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    But also Off-the-cuff comments keep things interesting :)
     
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  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    off the cuff...?
    ok.....
    I'm wondering about the cord.......left there for a reason....... as it it were meant to be hung.....but from what??
     
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  20. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    I knew you all were going to get around to me......

    It is not a style I recognize from anywhere, nor can I find any close comparison. It may be that identifying the wood, and the fiber used in the cordage, would be the most helpful clues. But microscopy would probably be required.

    May we see the bottom and/or top of the piece, to see the grain structure there?
     
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