Cast wall plaque Goddess Athena.

Thanks Debora, examined very closely but cannot see any marks.

 

I'm not knowledgable about metalware but... Your piece is very nicely done. I'd start with the assumption it's a German cast iron charger from the late 1800s.

Debora

 

Not a foundry mark to my eye, but looks like might be definitely a tiny signature on the front where I've circled #1 in RED. Looks like it starts with a 'script J' and ends with Roman numeral II....to MY eye....which CAN be questionable!! #2 is highly questionable as another possible signature..... @paulw, you might want to look with a loupe??





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Thanks for that.
I've examined those areas now with a loupe and can't see anything resembling a mark or signature. In fact I've scrutinised the whole thing and can find nothing.
As I would like to sell it for charity, can anyone advise where to start in terms of possible value?
thanks

 

What's your sales venue?

Debora

 

Morning,
Probably UK Auction house?

 

Have you looked at Completed Listings on eBay? Helpful in giving a general idea of supply and demand.

Debora

 

they will certainly recognize if it's Fer de Berlin, which was a casting process where less material gave more details and therefore look as if it was simply deep-drawn sometimes. also used for iron jewelry.

 

Thanks Fid and Debora.
Should it have a signature or mark of some kind?

 

not necesserally when it was a well-known subject. could be after one of the collections around the Pergamon Altar.

 

I know I wrote a wordy response to this and it has completely disappeared. Even if you leave the page without posting, doesn't system save a draft?

Summary: I don't recognize it; it has nothing to do with the Judgment of Paris. It's some fantasy scene in neoclassical style, similar to this:

https://www.drouotonline.com/l/15759034-?actionParam=recherche&controllerParam=lot&fromId=

 

Somewhere in between. Not sure how much market there is for this sort of thing today. It looks well made in its way.

A signature would help. Barbedienne? LeVillain?

 

Thanks
No sign of any signature or mark

 

This is what I see.

Debora

 

Interesting Thanks

 

While I see the points of similarity, what I see is: a fully armed & armored Athena standing in a posture usually reserved for men; two nymphs & three shepherds who are bystanders to the action; a small woodland creature, a satyr or Pan himself, holding out a spherical object which holds the attention of all; a sleeping dog.

What I don't see: a nude Aphrodite and Hera & Athena in some degree of undress (Athena may show up wearing her helmet but does not generally wear other pieces of her armour or carry arms); a young man, often in a Phrygian cap, surveying the candidates or holding out the apple to Aphrodite; Cupid near his mother.

The sparest depictions of the Judgment of Paris have at least the judge & the winner, Paris & Aphrodite. The plate has neither.