Featured Celluloid Dance Card Portrait Inside

Discussion in 'Art' started by cxgirl, May 6, 2015.

  1. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I picked up this nice little celluloid dance card and was surprised to find a portrait glued inside. The painting is in rough condition - looking at the edges I assume it is on paper of some sort.
    I'm trying to figure out the age of the portrait - the dance card I would think is from the 1900-1910 time period.
    Any ideas or information appreciated.
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  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

  3. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    What a lovely little celluloid dance card.....:cat: SWEET!
     
  4. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    It's hard to tell.... It does look pretty old, and reminds me of miniatures painted on ivory from the early 19th century. But the painting may also date from the period of the dance card. There is no evidence that the painting is older than the dance card itself. I'm not saying that it is not older, but am unclear if one can base this judgment just on its looks.

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  5. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    You call it a "dance card" but where are the dance partner's names supposed to go?
    Is there more than one "page" in it.

    It looks like the image fits right into that oval? And the front covers it when closed?
     
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  6. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    I like this!

    I don't know a thing about dance cards, but in the last year I ran across huge number of these oval miniatures (all on ivory). I never posted a photo because they were a clients, and possibly going to Sothebys, I initially assumed were paper, and they showed glue on the edges, like this. What I thought was a thicker paper that they were painted on, was actually paper thin ivory. Someone else mentioned ivory, it very well could be.

    I was just writing about the bulge in the back that appears to be the size of the portrait which makes me think they were always together, Messi noticed the same. I agree. Maybe a quaint frame of some kind?
     
  7. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Locket, not dance card?
    Seems earlier, as moreotherstuff said... Celluloid was in use as early as 1850.
    Beautiful piece!
     
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  8. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

  9. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Do you have more than two pieces? Here is one on eBay but again, not like yours but does have a portrait.


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  10. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    But that "portrait" in on the top, and appears to be porcelain.
     
  11. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Hi Shiloh - Great to see you!
     
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  12. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    LOL....is that to be funny? :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: I guess I am all over the place again,LOL.:cat::p:p:p:p
     
  13. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Hes lovely ! Id think from his clothes hes more 1800 ish. I think someone just put him in a Victorian locket.
     
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  14. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the replies folks.
    Great link more, hair and collar look very similar.
    I'll add photos so you can see the rest of this, there is only one additional page.
    I haven't seen lots of these but when searching I'm not seeing others with that oval space on the back. I cut the photo off to show the portrait but have added another - this portrait is small in the space, I don't believe these were made to go together. I think it probably came from a locket or brooch. The size of the portrait is 1 3/4"L, the space is 2 1/4"L.
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  15. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Hi to you too messilane!
    Nice to see some familiar faces here. :)
     
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  16. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member

    First: Shi, where the heck have you been!? Good to see you back, girl!

    Second: very nice piece, CX! I have nothing really to add other than it appears to be signed just above his shoulder at left (or am I just seeing things?).


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  17. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member

    I agree! The portrait it not original to the mount.

    All the value is in the miniature itself and not its mounting. If I were you, when listing this item for re-sell, list under the Art/Paintings/Miniatures/Watercolors category, that's where most your hits/bids will come from (the miniature portrait collectors).
     
  18. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    thanks nuff. I'll double check with a better loupe but it looks like brush stroke lines.
     
  19. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the advice on listing nuff! I would have listed it with the dance card being the main feature.
    Upon closer examination I think this is painted on ivory - looking closely at what I though was a tear is really a break, and has paper underneath.
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  20. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member

    You're most welcome.

    Ok, cool, thought it was signed. Yup, looks like an ivory wafer. The portrait to me looks like the work of English artist: 'William Egley (1798 - 1870)', but since its not signed, it's going to be one of those circle of/attributed to type things. But just to confirm my thoughts or who the possible artist might be, you can contact Don Shelton at this link here: http://portrait-miniature.blogspot.com/

    He's helped me in the past and is damn good at what he does regarding miniature portraits. Good luck, CX!
     
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