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<p>[QUOTE="J Dagger, post: 10468085, member: 10944"]Oooh that is quite interesting, especially for a thrift store find. I’m oscillating between old and newer. The decoration is quite good and complex. Not great but quite good. I feel like they would have likely spent more time on the kirin in the 18th century but there’s a chance they may not have. The red being so vibrant and undisturbed around the top rim looks off. It may have been protected by a lid for most of its life though and that is a good explanation for it being so well preserved if so. Some of the other colors and their vibrancy is bugging me a bit but my eyes could be mistaken. The wear to gilding looks honest. The porcelain looks to be of high quality and the open work is really nice and crisp. The foot rim looks good and the dirt looks right. However the dirt extends to up inside the foot rim. That is generally a sign of a fake. The fakers rub dirt on foot rims but they don’t think about the fact that honest grime would only accumulate on the very bottom. It wouldn’t also get up into the inside edges most likely. They’ll rub foot rims over a rough surface to give them lots of scratches and whatnot to approximate what age and sliding an object over a table or counter countless times would do. Then rub the dirt in. On your piece it almost looks like it may have literally been sitting outside in dirt though. In that case the object settling down into the dirt could explain the dirt extending up into the sides of the foot rim. In person does it look like it literally was sitting in soil? Being outside could also explain the extensive damage and losses. I’d call the color pallet Wucai enamels. I’m torn. I’d think a republic period or even later copy might make more sense but I’m far from knowledgeable enough to know for sure. It could be older as others have suggested. If you want a professional opinion pay Peter Combs $18 to asses it. You can google him. Just send good naturally lit photos to him via his website. Even with this damage it could have a fair bit of value because of its lovely form and decoration. Worth getting a good pair of eyes on it I think. </p><p><br /></p><p>Does the porcelain have a bluish celadon hue or are my eyes deceiving me? I keep seeing it on the underside. Nice grab either way![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="J Dagger, post: 10468085, member: 10944"]Oooh that is quite interesting, especially for a thrift store find. I’m oscillating between old and newer. The decoration is quite good and complex. Not great but quite good. I feel like they would have likely spent more time on the kirin in the 18th century but there’s a chance they may not have. The red being so vibrant and undisturbed around the top rim looks off. It may have been protected by a lid for most of its life though and that is a good explanation for it being so well preserved if so. Some of the other colors and their vibrancy is bugging me a bit but my eyes could be mistaken. The wear to gilding looks honest. The porcelain looks to be of high quality and the open work is really nice and crisp. The foot rim looks good and the dirt looks right. However the dirt extends to up inside the foot rim. That is generally a sign of a fake. The fakers rub dirt on foot rims but they don’t think about the fact that honest grime would only accumulate on the very bottom. It wouldn’t also get up into the inside edges most likely. They’ll rub foot rims over a rough surface to give them lots of scratches and whatnot to approximate what age and sliding an object over a table or counter countless times would do. Then rub the dirt in. On your piece it almost looks like it may have literally been sitting outside in dirt though. In that case the object settling down into the dirt could explain the dirt extending up into the sides of the foot rim. In person does it look like it literally was sitting in soil? Being outside could also explain the extensive damage and losses. I’d call the color pallet Wucai enamels. I’m torn. I’d think a republic period or even later copy might make more sense but I’m far from knowledgeable enough to know for sure. It could be older as others have suggested. If you want a professional opinion pay Peter Combs $18 to asses it. You can google him. Just send good naturally lit photos to him via his website. Even with this damage it could have a fair bit of value because of its lovely form and decoration. Worth getting a good pair of eyes on it I think. Does the porcelain have a bluish celadon hue or are my eyes deceiving me? I keep seeing it on the underside. Nice grab either way![/QUOTE]
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