Cloisonne vase - please help identify

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by wanderer, Sep 23, 2020.

  1. wanderer

    wanderer Member

    Hi Everyone,

    I have recently acquired this vase. After countless hours of researching I am not winning. I am still not sure if it is Japanese or Chinese. Seems that Japanese by designed but stamp on the bottom (if correctly translated by my coworker) -- Chinese. She translated it as” Made in Hunan Province”. I cannot date it either. The only thing I have learned that it is missing ring handles.

    Same “honeycomb” back layer/background) design as in these vases:

    https://www.chairish.com/product/1556684/antique-cloisonne-vaseurn-large-meiji-period-colorful-highly-detailed-collectible-japanese-metal-en


    https://www.chairish.com/product/2484223/japanese-champleve-enameled-bronze-urn-vase


    I am also including 3 photos of the stamp (rotated 90 degrees as I do not know correct orientation) as well as offered translation.

    I will appreciate any help.
    Thank you. Vase2.jpg Vase11.jpg Bottom.jpg BottomRim Imperfection.jpg SideTangential.jpg BottomMark1.jpg Mark6.jpg Mark3.jpg Marktranslated.jpg
     
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    i always see these as being Champleve..???
     
  3. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    it has no traditional shape and decoration. I'm afraid it's a modern piece
     
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  4. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Not cloisonne - champleve as @komokwa says.
     
  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    YAY......one fer Komo !!!!!!

    It happens.............not often though.......;):(:(
     
  6. wanderer

    wanderer Member

    Ooops! It is champleve. About design - simple geometrical shapes - I thought it is characteristic for Japanese design.
    Age wise - this vase had hard life - enamel in many cells is partially cleaved.
     
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  7. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    I can well imagine you thinking that. If we look closely at the piece, you can probably see that it is a machine-produced piece.

    the brass is to shiny to be old and the dark bottom color looks artificaly made.if you brush a very small area with nail remover you will see that the patina disappears very easily. 20200518_090210 (2).jpg
     
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