Featured Does anyone recognize this Tiffany & Co. pattern or mark?

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by J Dagger, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I can't find it either. And as you already suspect the mark is not correct, IMHO.
     
  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

  4. SBSVC

    SBSVC Well-Known Member

  5. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    I definitely considered plate was a distinct possibility with the lack of a silver mark, good call. I don’t know how much silver plate they did but I know they definitely did some. I actually have a silver plated pocket mirror made by them but much more modern. I actually can’t make out the mark on that link.
     
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  6. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Great point. I was guessing they probably had the era wrong. This would explain not finding the pattern but probably not the T&C mark being wonky right?
     
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  7. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    Without purity and pattern markings, I would think this mark is more of a "retailer's notation" instead of a maker's mark. From what my eyesight (not the best) is telling me, this font is very similar, if not identical, to some early Tiffany marks.
     
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  8. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    I’m thinking your probably right. I guess my next question is do they hold any real value if only retailed by T&C and not manufactured by them? I guess if they truly are from that era it could be of interest to collectors? Guy is asking $150 for three which I wouldn’t pay even if they were easily identified as being T&C and marked sterling, unless it was a rare pattern.
     
  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    they hold value to the seller....if someone shells out the $150.....:hilarious:
     
  10. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    While I do think they have collector (possibly even replacement) value, I personally would not pay more than $10 (absolute max) per item, with the intention of turning them over SOMEDAY - as in long tail - at approx $25 per.

    That is from experience - experience gained some years ago - the market may have changed.
     
  11. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    That $150 for 3 price must assume that the name justifies way more than scrap value. It might add a small amount, but not that much - at least too me.

    I checked the usual list of Tiffany-supplier suspects and did not find this design for any of them. It may be that it was never patented or listed in any catalog.
     
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  12. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Thanks for checking, very kind of you. I suspect the seller just happened upon these. He doesn’t seem to be a collector or informed reseller. Probably just saw some T&C sell for around that on eBay and randomly picked a price. I wouldn’t pay near that much even if they were silver either. They weigh eight standard ounces total and I planned to offer under melt to play it safe. Since I’m pretty unsure they are silver at this point I would probably stick more in the region the above commenter mentioned which I assume the seller wouldn’t be inclined to take. The right T&C pieces of flatware to seem to command a good premium over scrap as far as I can tell. I’ve picked up a few at good prices when I can but haven’t sold any yet.
     
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  13. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Your opinion based on actual experience is appreciated! I almost never expect a quick flip. Gives me time to enjoy having an object.
     
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  14. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    A few moments ago I stated nearly the same sentiment - I list it and then continue to live with it. If and when it sells really make no matter!
     
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  15. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    JMHO. so many unknown AND LOCAL sub-contractors working for Tiffany. worldwide and unknown. not worth the risk when simply stamped as here.
     
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