Egyptian revival chair help pls

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  1. samuelcaulfield1

    samuelcaulfield1 Well-Known Member

    9D0A6F7C-C087-4785-BBDA-6F1D4086D860.jpeg Apologies for the crude solitary photo but can anyone make out from this what standard of Egyptian revival chair this is. Is it particularly valuable?

    I’d appreciate any info. Thanks a lot
     
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  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I know nothing about furniture, but that lyre back doesn't say Egyptian to me.
     
  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Thought the same thing.

    Debora
     
  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Neoclassical seems to be the going term. Looks like there is a caryatid effect on the arms.
     
  5. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Not Egyptian but late Neoclassical or Neoclassical Revival. Not worth $650 IMO.
     
  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Think OP's in the UK. That isn't £650, is it?

    Debora
     
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  7. samuelcaulfield1

    samuelcaulfield1 Well-Known Member

    Thanks a lot guys. This is in the US so it’s $650.
     
  8. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Agrees, I'd guess revival & not period.
     
  9. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

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  10. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Now that one is in euros.

    Debora

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  11. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yes, Empire, the 2nd phase of Neoclassicism was roughly 1800-1815, during Napoleon's rule.
    These chairs don't look period to me so I don't know what a style or revival piece sells for but, $650-$750 sounds high.
     
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  12. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    "Époque 19eme" in the description is a certain sign that the auction house knows it's not from the period. the old game of "ruse" or in English CYA...
     
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  13. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Yes, but the head title says "EPOQUE Empire" in the auctioneers code, it means the chair is of the Empire era, otherwise it should state STYLE Empire:)
    As for other works of art, the meanings of "signed by", " circle of", "in the manner of" or only "signed" are totally different! Read all words in descriptions, buyers! Caveat!
     
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  14. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Definitely, still, both chairs in this thread look "style of" rather than period to me, the legs are just to crisp to be 220 years old.
    Photographs do lie though, particularly with old furniture which is why it's important to examine in person if unsure.
     
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  15. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    sorry, but I for once have to disagree. if it was the real thing they'd directly have called it Napoleonic, Premier Empire etc..
     
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  16. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Alrighty then, a quick trip to the MET to see if they have anything.
    https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/189339

    Desk chair (fauteuil de bureau) ca. 1805–8
    "The seat rotates on the four-leg base of this "roundabout" chair. Napoleon used a similar chair at the Palais des Tuileries in Paris."
    The seat rotates? Geez, pretty fancy office chair for 1805

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  17. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    And it's on casters. Bet they had trouble keeping the kids from playing on it.
     
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  18. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    LOL, probably so, that was a very clever bit of cabinetmaking in 1805 which is pre-industrial revolution.
    Thing is, this chair has period written all over it, even in the photographs. The missing gilded brass on left arm post, the darkened patina of the mahogany, the removable seat cushion, the dings on the legs, etc. Provenance is very good too, possibly owned by Prince Murat, later King of Naples.
     
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  19. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    "Three brand marks of the initials C M J surmounted by a princely or ducal crown on the under side of the seat rail between the legs of this chair, and can be interpreted as collectors' marks of Caroline and Joachim Murat."

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