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Message:: [QUOTE="Nvntivs, post: 497641, member: 7975"]Yeah, it is certainly older than these two… especially since the first on is brand-new and the second one is listed as around 1900… And that’s the sticking point btw. I would like to have the second desk also not younger than high-Victorian, actually as old as possible. The 1900-1930s are not an option at all.Taking into consideration, that these desks are produced in the same designs for more than 2 centuries now, and thus even the better replicas from the midcentury may already have some patina of the age, it is rather difficult to find a 100% genuine for a decent Price.About half a year ago there was a good example of how bad the situation is.There was a excessively altered desk from the 20s-30s, turned into a sort of a captains desk from the late 18th –early 19th century.There was even a certificate from an “expert witness” (I hope this is the correct translation) from the late 1970s telling all kind of miraculous stories about it. Originating from a north german castle, used to be in possession of Black Beard himself and similar stuff... They attached some barock and empire decorations, but still it was a rather chep desk from the 20th century.[/QUOTE]