Featured Fake? Roman Glass Square Bottle

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Soki, Dec 31, 2022.

  1. Soki

    Soki Active Member

    Hi,

    I bought this pretty nice bottle for about 30 bucks. I already considered this to be fake. It was stated as „property of a private art and design collection“ and cologne (Köln, Germany) as finding spot.
    I‘m totally new to Roman Glass, but I read a lot about it. These are the reasons, why I think this piece to be fake:

    - very even and unnatural looking rainbow iridescence. It also doesn’t flake off.

    - non withered pontil mark

    - unusual colour (looks like a nice blue aquamarine colour). More common is a very soft aqua tone.


    Is this piece a keeper? It looks pretty nice, but I normally don‘t collect any fakes. It could be interesting though to compare it to other pieces.

    Here are some authentic pieces:

    https://edit.gerda-henkel-stiftung....luxemburger-strasse-koeln/form-51_103051.html



    Thanks a lot

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  2. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I agree it's a copy, but it may still be an older one. 19th C maybe. Lovely colour.
     
  3. Lark

    Lark Well-Known Member

    I have several Roman bottles and all of them have flakes inside . And yes the iridescence seems to be a different color than yours.
     
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  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It's also too heavy a glass.
     
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  5. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Yes the "rainbow" is a giveaway. I do like the look of the bottle itself though! :)
     
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  6. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    I think you probably mean non weathered, and yes you are correct about that too.
     
  7. Soki

    Soki Active Member

    yes, I mean non weathered:)
     
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  8. Soki

    Soki Active Member

    That‘s definetely possible. In Germany we also still have some traditional glass makers, e.g the Joska Waldglashütte. Here is a piece made by them:

    https://www.ebay.de/itm/175088110368?hash=item28c4108b20:g:NjQAAOSwqXJhzdX1&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAAoAAp3GTX90ZEEwjM73mTubL9GvbcKiKzmkAB1MGxaNd7Gsm1Id1tE4ODfAUhbTovLyh32tC2OOENJeIXMSi9bkkX1nGG1XKe7Ran30aKZu8xj0K0fQWeQr5Gd1GWemU/lCsLGXzT5SmW+xB2qRK7yvWz225m96OhwdqlT7bYfxT26rCq+9ladj9T+7flWX8S4NJYD0CAO1Ze2S2GbGFdZ+0=|tkp:Bk9SR7aUtNWtYQ


    You’re right. It should be less thick and probably be lighter in weight, too. It weighs ~184g and is 13.5cm high and about 7.5cm width.
     
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