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I bought a lovely nutmeg with silver hallmarks c1794
I’ve been trying to identify the family crest on top .
It has a lovely motto underneath “May we live well and die happy”
Would be great to know which family it belonged to , my search alone has been fruitless so far any ideas gratefully received

 

I pulled out my Fairbairn's Crests book however it seems to be most helpful when you already have a name. I use it so infrequently that I'm not very good at it.

If it helps, he seems to call the cross Raguled and the V shapes Pheon.

 

Thank you very much , that gives me something to work on now

 

So the Fletcher family seems to come closest. (If there even is a Fletcher family; this could be internet nonsense.)

Debora

 

Fletcher is a very old name in the UK, it is literally a tradesmans name, a Fletcher made arrows, just like 'Smith' was from blacksmith.

Interesting the motto is in English, would expect it to be Latin from this period.

 

Thank you Debora , very interesting , I know a few people with the name fletcher

 

Yes I was very surprised myself that it was in English , I can tell that it’s definitely engraved around the time that it was made

 

Yes, the text engraving definitely looks contemporary with the arms, the fact it is in English may offer a clue to the original family if it can be traced. Translating it to Latin it would probably be 'ut bene vivimus et mori beatus'. Afaik that isn't a known Latin phrase, so it doesn't seem likely the motto was an English translation from the Latin. Thus the motto appears English from the get-go perhaps indicative of a recently (at the time) established family.

 

These are from Fairbairn's Crests of the Families of Great Britain and Ireland, if it helps.

 

Yes I was thinking along those lines so your comments are very reassuring thank you

 

Thank you
Interesting info