Flat Woven Item, Native American or Asian?

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by NewEngland, Oct 19, 2023.

  1. NewEngland

    NewEngland Well-Known Member

    Hi everyone,

    This is a flat coil woven item that measures 12" across and is about 1/8" thick. It came with a few Asian items, so at first I thought it was Chinese or Vietnamese, but I'm wondering if it's Native American. Thanks for any help you can offer.

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  2. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

  3. NewEngland

    NewEngland Well-Known Member

    Similar design, but this is completely flat, not a bowl or basket. It appears very old. Thanks!
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    likely an african lid....for a grain basket.
  5. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Just out of curiosity, can that area of damage be fixed???? It's lovely, what ever it IS!!!!
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  6. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Those Tanzanian baskets are lovely,and do have an NA feel from a distance if someone were going for a SW look.
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  7. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Agreed. I would also think ‘lid’
  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Not in any way I know of !

    A broken basket , will always be a broken basket.

    ( ok...some repairs ...on certain baskets....are possible.....but only to stabilize them..)
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Beautifully subtle design, very pleasing to the eye. And another vote for lid.
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  10. NewEngland

    NewEngland Well-Known Member

    Thanks everyone!
  11. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    I was just doing some research on Nantucket Baskets the other day. A dealer claimed to also do repairs on baskets customers bring in. I hadn’t really thought of baskets as something that could be repaired before. Maybe they do more of what you said and stabilize wounds though.
  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!


    Nantucket basketry is an American icon and a big part of the Northeast Nautical basket making history..

    It would not surprise me that a current basket maker could affect repairs on such works......depending on the nature of the damage...
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  13. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    It’s a neat cottage industry! What a great display in your photo. Yours or just an online example? I purchased a nice enough repro at auction around a year or so ago and it started my fascination with them a bit. I did pull the trigger on a lidded friendship “purse” basket a while back. It has a nice “white stufff” whale on the top. I’m not totally positive of it’s authenticity but I think it has a good chance. Does seem that like anything else worth having the markets is flooded with Chinese and other fakes/repros. Turns out that owners would put their names inside the lids traditionally. Mine has an odd personalization under the lid so that is a good sign I think. Fakes I’ve seen so far are signed on the bottom of the basket sometimes but don’t have an owners name under the lid.

    They certainly do have a strong collectors market.
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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    nah, not mine..... I wish it were......but $$$$$$$$$...... for a good one & I have yet to come across the one I'd want at the price I'd pay !!:(
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  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    one of the few instances where the baskets were made by men !!
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  16. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Finding a real good one at a bargain would be tall task indeed.
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  17. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Good point. Men at sea or out in the sea will make just about anything they already have the materials for it turns out. Interesting that the governments that were paying the lightship men eventually decided they didn’t want the men moonlighting and banned them from making baskets. When production moved onshore the fairer sex got their hands in the game it seems.
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2023
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