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Message:: [QUOTE="sunday silence, post: 4292862, member: 6808"]Tying up some loose ends: The J Roybal stuff is based on a real artist: Graciela Boulanger. She's from Bolivia and still alive age 86. Her stuff is quite similar, but she's a real artist. Ive managed to find two of her originals and they sold quickly. Very good name to know. On Joyce Roybal: this is the first I've heard of Joyce Roybal. I took a quick look in a data base and it looks exactly like the J Roybal stuff. My guess is that's its the same factory work from China. If you google Roybal you will find various stories. Some say its a he some say its a she. Some say he's from California. Some say she's from Mexico. But you never see a picture you never see him/her at a gallery. just weird stuff. I feel strongly that Joyce Roybal is the same made up thing. If you go on the askart website, it's very confusing and not very helpful. It starts by asking who is Joyce Roybal and then immediately starts talking about "J Roybal" and its factory art. Not really explaining if that is a connection or just a coincidence. The article then concludes even more cryptically with a biographical piece on Joyce Roybal from the "archives." not explaining if this is bogus or real or what. Very strange. Like I said I think Joyce is just as fake as J.[/QUOTE]