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<p>[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 10298945, member: 111"]Hunhhh, that's an odd one - and believe it's <i>extremely</i> unlikely to be American. Rattails weren't typically in use by the time Fiddle patterns developed, and personally can't recall seeing any, other than 19th century Irish pieces. To my eye, the marks resemble squished/distorted hallmarks often found on bottom-marked spoons (struck on the stem), the result of hammering the stem back to normal after stamping widened the area around the mark - but wouldn't expect to see bottom-marking on an Irish rattail Fiddle, top-marking the norm by the end of the 18th century. That's all I've got, but you might consider researching the crest for the family... </p><p><br /></p><p>Here are six Irish spoons, three Old English pattern with a 1779 bottom-marked pair, and three Fiddle pattern, all top-marked, one from 1832 with a rattail:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.leopardantiques.com/object/stock/detail/1143" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.leopardantiques.com/object/stock/detail/1143" rel="nofollow">https://www.leopardantiques.com/object/stock/detail/1143</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>~Cheryl[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 10298945, member: 111"]Hunhhh, that's an odd one - and believe it's [I]extremely[/I] unlikely to be American. Rattails weren't typically in use by the time Fiddle patterns developed, and personally can't recall seeing any, other than 19th century Irish pieces. To my eye, the marks resemble squished/distorted hallmarks often found on bottom-marked spoons (struck on the stem), the result of hammering the stem back to normal after stamping widened the area around the mark - but wouldn't expect to see bottom-marking on an Irish rattail Fiddle, top-marking the norm by the end of the 18th century. That's all I've got, but you might consider researching the crest for the family... Here are six Irish spoons, three Old English pattern with a 1779 bottom-marked pair, and three Fiddle pattern, all top-marked, one from 1832 with a rattail: [URL]https://www.leopardantiques.com/object/stock/detail/1143[/URL] ~Cheryl[/QUOTE]
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