Featured Heavy, low-footed, old glass plate

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by KikoBlueEyes, Mar 27, 2022.

  1. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I have way too much glass, but the weight of this highly polished, very clear, glass plate spoke to me and said "take me home". I don't know how to describe the bottom of the plate, which extends about an half and inch below the plate's surface, so I called it low-footed - maybe someone can give me the right term. It is obviously hand cut, as the two flowers have different middles. There are scratches on the bottom that indicate to me it is not new.

    It is 10 inches in diameter and an astonishing 3 lbs 3 ounces in weight. Not a dinner plate, but something else. I'm not sure what. I don't know where it is from, what its purpose is or how old it is. Any answers, comments or suggestions would be very much appreciated.

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  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Meant to sit under something else maybe? Too small for a punch bowl plate. Not enough flat area for a serving plate.
     
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  3. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    All good points. What would require such a heavy thick plate under it? Its the size of a regular dinner plate, so its not for serving. Complete mystery to me.
     
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  4. Joe in PA

    Joe in PA Well-Known Member

    I would say lead crystal footed platter/cake plate - lead crystal does tend to be thick and heavy (in my limited knowledge of the subject)
     
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  5. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    That’s interesting. It could hold a cake nicely. I didn’t think about lead crystal but that makes sense too. Thank you.
     
  6. LauraGarnet02

    LauraGarnet02 Well-Known Member

    I have a hunch it is from the McKee Glass Company Innovation Line.
    This is only a hunch based on an ID of a big heavy pressed and cut glass bowl I did years ago.

    The best keywords I can remember besides McKee Innovation are fire polished and wheel cut.

    Eek! I hope this is not a wild goose chase by me blurting out wrong information.
     
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  7. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Great. I appreciate the lead. I am always willing to do research even when it doesn't work out because this is how I learn.
     
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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Maybe a dessert bowl underplate or some such. For something drippy anyway.
     
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  9. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Are you calling my plate drippy? :wacky::)
     
  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    More like I'm calling the users sloppy. Can't keep the drips off the table without help.
     
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  11. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I get that. Leaving a trail over your good tablecloth.
     
  12. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    I agree with it being made by McKee. They made a similar vase, among other things, that is the heaviest vase I've ever hefted. I also think it's a cake plate.
     
  13. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

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  14. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Excellent. I haven't found anything yet, but I'll keep looking.
     
  15. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Wow. I had completely forgotten about this compote, but you are absolutely right - they both have the same design elements. Perhaps, that's why it spoke to me. It wanted to join its friend.
     
  16. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    If the design in the bottom can be determined to be pressed glass, then it's almost gotta be McKee's. If its' cut, its not McKee, it's considerably better than McKee which was pressed glass with cut decorations.
     
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  17. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    How do I determine this. Then leaves are very deep.
     
  18. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    The leaves are cut in the McKee version, but the bottom is pressed. There's no way for me/us to determine if it's cut or pressed, from here. No way for me to instruct you, either, Sorry.
     
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  19. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    So I examined it carefully. The two parts, bottom of the foot and the bottom of thee plate were done differently in my estimation. The bottom of the foot is definitely pressed. The flowers and leaves on the plate have been cut. Here are photos of the bottom of the plate with the pressed foot and the cut leaves and flowers.


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    So based on your excellent characterization of what to look for it must be McKee.
    This information also is really helpful in my evaluation of glass pieces. I really love EAPG and its early mimics, but also ABP glass. Can I use this to determine whether if all of the design is cut, it points to ABP, and if it is a mixture or only pressed to EAPG (if it is early enough) or is that too simplistic?
     
  20. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    If all of the design is cut, and you can determine if it were cut during the AB period, then yes, but glass has been cut for centuries, the American Brilliant period was a few short years.
     
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