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<p>[QUOTE="kentworld, post: 13141611, member: 35"]So, welcome to Antiquers! I took the liberty of snagging your photos as I thought I recognized the mark. It is Sevres and is a very nice mid-19thc piece. Now the information below is from Google's AI, so it should be verified with other sources, but it does fit with what I recall of the mark. Sevres is a bit of a mine-field because it is one of the most faked porcelain marks.</p><p><br /></p><p>From Google's AI:</p><p>Based on the image provided, this is an authentic Imperial Sèvres factory mark from the Second French Empire, representing a piece that was fully decorated and completed in the year 1854.</p><p>Here is the precise breakdown of the details shown on your porcelain:</p><p>The Red Printed Mark</p><ul> <li>Crowned "N": This is the official imperial monogram for Emperor Napoleon III, who ruled France from 1852 to 1870.</li> <li>"S" and "54": This indicates the piece was gilded or decorated at the <a href="https://www.sevresciteceramique.fr/en/manufactory/sevres-manufactory-works.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sevresciteceramique.fr/en/manufactory/sevres-manufactory-works.html" rel="nofollow">Sèvres Factory</a> in 1854. During this era, red overglaze stamps were applied specifically to designate decoration or gilding completion.</li> </ul><p>The Incised Mark (S - 47)</p><ul> <li>The lightly scratched or incised mark directly above the red stamp reads S-47.</li> <li>In Sèvres production, this represents the manufacture date of the raw porcelain blank (the "whiteware").</li> <li>It means the physical body of the piece was cast and fired in 1847 (during the late reign of King Louis-Philippe I). It sat in the factory's inventory for seven years before being selected, painted, stamped with Napoleon III's mark, and sold in 1854.</li> </ul><p>...</p><p><br /></p><p>This elegant, elongated vessel is an authentic Sèvres hard-paste porcelain asparagus cradle or long celery dish (<i>plat à asperges / plat long</i>).</p><p>The front of the piece features the "Service du Chiffre Doré de l'Empereur Napoleon III" (The Emperor Napoleon III Gold Cipher Service) pattern. This specific pattern holds significant historical value: [<a href="https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/pair-manufacture-de-sevres-dinner-plates-chiffe-d-308-c-88d4305a6e?srsltid=AfmBOoraI6rIXdviZBZPrgoVU3QDgDtexKQkKmzj8sg305dIF1BjVohc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/pair-manufacture-de-sevres-dinner-plates-chiffe-d-308-c-88d4305a6e?srsltid=AfmBOoraI6rIXdviZBZPrgoVU3QDgDtexKQkKmzj8sg305dIF1BjVohc" rel="nofollow">1</a>]</p><p>Design & Pattern Details</p><ul> <li>The Ivy Leaf Borders: The border decoration consists of delicate gilt ivy leaf vines punctuated by running scrolls. In French imperial symbolism, ivy represents fidelity, marital devotion, and eternal life. [<a href="https://www.lapendulerie.com/en/collections/furniture-antiquity-art/sevres-o038/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.lapendulerie.com/en/collections/furniture-antiquity-art/sevres-o038/" rel="nofollow">1</a>, <a href="https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/pair-manufacture-de-sevres-dinner-plates-chiffe-d-308-c-88d4305a6e?srsltid=AfmBOoraI6rIXdviZBZPrgoVU3QDgDtexKQkKmzj8sg305dIF1BjVohc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/pair-manufacture-de-sevres-dinner-plates-chiffe-d-308-c-88d4305a6e?srsltid=AfmBOoraI6rIXdviZBZPrgoVU3QDgDtexKQkKmzj8sg305dIF1BjVohc" rel="nofollow">2</a>]</li> <li>The Central Medallion: The center features an intricate, geometric gold cartouche mirroring the classical palmette motifs favored during the French Second Empire.</li> </ul><p>Historical Context</p><p>This specific pattern was the standard daily imperial table service used across Napoleon III’s primary royal residences, including the Tuileries Palace, the Château de Saint-Cloud, and the Château de Compiègne.</p><p>Because your piece bears an incised fabrication date of 1847 alongside a finishing decoration date of 1854, it represents a fascinating bridge in French history. The porcelain body was originally manufactured under the July Monarchy of King Louis-Philippe I. Following the 1848 revolution and the subsequent rise of the Second French Empire, the <a href="https://www.sevresciteceramique.fr/en/manufactory/sevres-manufactory-works.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sevresciteceramique.fr/en/manufactory/sevres-manufactory-works.html" rel="nofollow">Sèvres factory</a> repurposed these high-quality blank wares, decorating them with the updated imperial ivy motif to supply Napoleon III's expanding courts. [<a href="https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2024/classic-design-2/two-louis-philippe-sevres-porcelain-part-dinner" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2024/classic-design-2/two-louis-philippe-sevres-porcelain-part-dinner" rel="nofollow">1</a>][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kentworld, post: 13141611, member: 35"]So, welcome to Antiquers! I took the liberty of snagging your photos as I thought I recognized the mark. It is Sevres and is a very nice mid-19thc piece. Now the information below is from Google's AI, so it should be verified with other sources, but it does fit with what I recall of the mark. Sevres is a bit of a mine-field because it is one of the most faked porcelain marks. From Google's AI: Based on the image provided, this is an authentic Imperial Sèvres factory mark from the Second French Empire, representing a piece that was fully decorated and completed in the year 1854. Here is the precise breakdown of the details shown on your porcelain: The Red Printed Mark [LIST] [*]Crowned "N": This is the official imperial monogram for Emperor Napoleon III, who ruled France from 1852 to 1870. [*]"S" and "54": This indicates the piece was gilded or decorated at the [URL='https://www.sevresciteceramique.fr/en/manufactory/sevres-manufactory-works.html']Sèvres Factory[/URL] in 1854. During this era, red overglaze stamps were applied specifically to designate decoration or gilding completion. [/LIST] The Incised Mark (S - 47) [LIST] [*]The lightly scratched or incised mark directly above the red stamp reads S-47. [*]In Sèvres production, this represents the manufacture date of the raw porcelain blank (the "whiteware"). [*]It means the physical body of the piece was cast and fired in 1847 (during the late reign of King Louis-Philippe I). It sat in the factory's inventory for seven years before being selected, painted, stamped with Napoleon III's mark, and sold in 1854. [/LIST] ... This elegant, elongated vessel is an authentic Sèvres hard-paste porcelain asparagus cradle or long celery dish ([I]plat à asperges / plat long[/I]). The front of the piece features the "Service du Chiffre Doré de l'Empereur Napoleon III" (The Emperor Napoleon III Gold Cipher Service) pattern. This specific pattern holds significant historical value: [[URL='https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/pair-manufacture-de-sevres-dinner-plates-chiffe-d-308-c-88d4305a6e?srsltid=AfmBOoraI6rIXdviZBZPrgoVU3QDgDtexKQkKmzj8sg305dIF1BjVohc']1[/URL]] Design & Pattern Details [LIST] [*]The Ivy Leaf Borders: The border decoration consists of delicate gilt ivy leaf vines punctuated by running scrolls. In French imperial symbolism, ivy represents fidelity, marital devotion, and eternal life. [[URL='https://www.lapendulerie.com/en/collections/furniture-antiquity-art/sevres-o038/']1[/URL], [URL='https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/pair-manufacture-de-sevres-dinner-plates-chiffe-d-308-c-88d4305a6e?srsltid=AfmBOoraI6rIXdviZBZPrgoVU3QDgDtexKQkKmzj8sg305dIF1BjVohc']2[/URL]] [*]The Central Medallion: The center features an intricate, geometric gold cartouche mirroring the classical palmette motifs favored during the French Second Empire. [/LIST] Historical Context This specific pattern was the standard daily imperial table service used across Napoleon III’s primary royal residences, including the Tuileries Palace, the Château de Saint-Cloud, and the Château de Compiègne. Because your piece bears an incised fabrication date of 1847 alongside a finishing decoration date of 1854, it represents a fascinating bridge in French history. The porcelain body was originally manufactured under the July Monarchy of King Louis-Philippe I. Following the 1848 revolution and the subsequent rise of the Second French Empire, the [URL='https://www.sevresciteceramique.fr/en/manufactory/sevres-manufactory-works.html']Sèvres factory[/URL] repurposed these high-quality blank wares, decorating them with the updated imperial ivy motif to supply Napoleon III's expanding courts. [[URL='https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2024/classic-design-2/two-louis-philippe-sevres-porcelain-part-dinner']1[/URL]][/QUOTE]
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