HELP ID PAINTER PLEASE. 1918?

Discussion in 'Art' started by smadgos, Aug 24, 2019.

  1. smadgos

    smadgos Well-Known Member

    Thanks :)

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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    May Moreau?
     
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  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    That's what it looks like to my eye too. Not a fully formed painter. The bocksbeutel is traditionally German and used from Franconian wines. The other bottle is the traditional shape for Rheingau wines.

    Debora

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  4. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    ooh yes. and the oysters are from the Ruhr. or you get the Ruhr ? :)
    most probably Portuguese in this combination. there are excellent rosé champagnes from there.
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, more likely Portuguese. Oysters and Mateus rosé, a classic Portuguese combination.
    The bottle on the left, but with an older label which has a higher Mateus banner
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  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    The Mateus brand didn't exist until 1942.

    Debora
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Which would correspond with my seeing 1948 instead of 1918, which I should have mentioned.
    I could be wrong, of course.:)
     
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  8. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Geographic area this was found? May mean nothing, never hurts to include the info.
     
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  9. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    And the internet tells me the bocksbeutel has been around since the 18th century, so I'm good with it being 191? (not 100% on the last digit).

    After a certain point in the evening, all wine labels look similar. :joyful:
     
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  10. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    here. Franken-Oyster.
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  11. jsnggltt

    jsnggltt Well-Known Member

    If the general consensus is that the artist’s first name is May then I suggest the first initial of the sur name is N not M (the two initials side by side do not match in my eyes)

    I read the last name as Noury.
     
  12. jsnggltt

    jsnggltt Well-Known Member

    The bentwood chair would seem to point more to the 40’s as well.
     
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  13. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    not too sure. looks like a Vienna coffee house chair - either Thonet or Kohn. so earlier is possible. 1900 to 1930s ? the bottle may as well be Austrian; we had an import license to Switzerland for an Austrian white wine that had similar bottles. can't remember the name. Nussbauer ?
     
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  14. smadgos

    smadgos Well-Known Member

    I think the artist is Max Moreau
     
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  15. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    If you're right (and I think it's a good possibility) and if the internet is right that he was born in 1902, then he was 16 when he painted this. Not bad.

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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Or possibly 46?
     
  17. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I don't see a four, no matter how I squint.

    Plus, work he was doing in 1948 (or the late 30s at least... don't know if I saw anything from the forties) was much more accomplished than this.

    Don't think this was done in 1948 unless it's a different guy... or he started painting with his non-dominant hand.:D
     
  18. I agree.... it is Max Leon Moreau 1902-1992. He has hundreds of auction records, most of which are portraits and street scenes. I believe it to be 1902 as well due to the fact that his earlier work was still lifes as his later work the aforementioned street scenes and portraits. In fact, I could only find three auction records of a still life - two of which were dated 1929.
     
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  19. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I'm confused - if Max was born in 1902, how could a painting of his be dated that same year? Or is that not what you meant @www.mclarenauction.com ?
     
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  20. I think the date on the painting in question is 1918 so he would have been 16 at the time of this painting. I mis-typed. Woops!
     
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