Help Identifying a Signature

Can anyone Identify this signature? Thanks!!

 

Justin, this provides little info, but is sig the same as on your item?

yours above, the other one below:


from:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-signed-cretelly-cretilly-1720808682

 

Yes!!!
Thank you!!!! I am still having a hard time finding out more.

 

Justin, it looks as if the seller for the one I showed didn't have much success, either! Obviously, there was something to do with Jaques Carlu, but I don't know exactly what...

 

Yes, I have been researching this for a few days now with little luck!! I will keep trudging along!! Thanks!

 

Can we see the whole piece? I am a little confused. The style of art is the same with two different signatures...that have been found to be somehow related...but I do not know who's work I am seeing? If it's just me having problems, could you please humor me for a moment? Thank you

 

French, Cretelle is more probable for the name
Found this one:
https://www.auction.fr/_fr/lot/m-cr...bsp-raquo-gravure-a-l-rsquo-eau-forte-9629631

 

As a courtesy, a photograph of the entire piece please.

Debora

 

Here is another one.....sold for $45 in 2012 https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/10923065_187-20th-c-french-school-etching

 

It’s a collaborative work by M. Cretelley and Jacques Carlu, this should have been asked on the other thread. Two threads gets confusing.

 

Here’s a pdf, pg. 90 shows the two as collaborators and pg. 653 describes your piece. By the way, the number 16 is the date of 1916 not number 16 of a ltd. ed.. It also shows the spelling with and without the y at the end of Cretelle.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/013e/9d9b79d129048f91a785f5545b993b4ab89a.pdf

 

thank you