Help identifying old cauldron?

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by Audrey Muzingo, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. 03C2A169-4A7D-4AF3-B8B1-DCD368EC1D1C.jpeg 41428D52-CDB9-4889-845E-DDAF3D048A0F.jpeg 958D3CF3-EAC3-4FE5-8DDA-86928CEF69D6.jpeg 30C165D5-B776-4E28-98B1-5C98059CEDCC.jpeg 57943697-1D1F-419C-BFF8-94753398DF99.jpeg 33CD7FC2-2D28-4016-A924-FFC28C9B82DF.jpeg 827992F6-9F62-436F-AA81-13E4EB6DAF2A.jpeg FD5572E9-D452-4C73-835F-E99477606D43.jpeg 41428D52-CDB9-4889-845E-DDAF3D048A0F.jpeg 03C2A169-4A7D-4AF3-B8B1-DCD368EC1D1C.jpeg This pot/cauldron was in a box of antiques a family friend asked me to consign, giving me details about all the items so fast I couldn't absorb it all. I remember him saying he bought the pot in New Orleans decades ago and the dealer said it was '17' something, so either 1700's or 17th Century, either of which would be older than anything I've ever sold before, and I'm not sure if my odds-n-ends Ebay store would be the best venue, ha. But I have no idea if it's even 100 year old.
    I've taken lots of photos as you can see.
    Here is everything else I can say about it:
    I can find no hallmark of any kind on theunderside, sides or insides.
    It has no seams, not even the handles, and there are areas of cut marks/scoring but I don't know if that occurred in crafting or use.
    The rounded protrusions that the handles attach to definitely look hand-shaped, as they are not symmetrical.
    Top diameter 9" (23 cm), bottom diameter6.75" (17 cm), height 4.5" (11 cm).
    It's very heavy, dense, weighs exactly 72.0 ounces (4.5 lb., 2.04 kg).
    I've gotten good at identifying metals but this one's a doozy especially since you can see the handles and pot are not the same. There isgreen verdigris oxidation on both, but the overall colors are different. I want to say the pot is bronze because of the density and MOST of its' coloring, but scratches on thebottom are shiny yellow like brass. I assume the orange oxidation on the bottom-inside is iron deposit from water and probably nails or utensils sitting in it.
    Oh, and I just found out it sings! I hollered to my daughter in the other room and this things rang like crazy about two feet away from me.

    SO, any kind of info would be helpful including references to other resources Icould check.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2020
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  2. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    Welcome Audrey. Do you have pics of it?
    Mikey
     
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  3. Yep sorry, I had to resize them all, lemme try now......
     
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  4. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Metal appears to be copper, maybe brass.
    @springfld.arsenal
    Do you think this was made by spinning?
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  5. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    French were are fond of brass cookware. New Orleans ...that makes sense
     
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  6. Would brass be so heavy though?
     
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  7. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Yes
     
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  8. Any idea on the time frame?
     
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  9. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    20th century
     
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  10. Wow that's way off from what my friend was told (and he's a retired antiques dealer himself). May I ask how you assessed the age, and can you link any references I could use to confirm it (one with pictures/descriptions would be great).
     
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  11. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I'm very thrown by the handles. I don't have time to look for documentation right now but perhaps you can answer, are those replacements? Are those screw on?
     
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  12. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    The screw on handles are part of it, those are definitely 20th century. But even if you remove those as later additions, there is nothing to indicate any age in what remains. No dovetail, no decoration, very little wear, molded on lip, handle tabs part of the body. None of it is right. And brass cooking ware is still being made so there is no shortage of the newer stuff. If you want to look for early brass, I recommend starting with The Brass Book by Schiffer. There are other more recent books too specializing in early American work.
     
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  13. Okay thank you so much!
     
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