Help identifying this maker mark

We have a full set of bone china and can't find maker or even figure what the marks are thanks Donny

Not sure which is the top or bottom so have pic of each

 

Donny, don't you think that photographs of the pieces themselves would be helpful? Certainly they would provide clues as to country of origin and age which, in turn, might lead to someone identifying their maker for you.

Debora

 

If you turn the top one counterclockwise a quarter, you have a Kutani mark, a generic mark.

 

Thanks Deborah i only have the pics of the bottom on my phone but can post more tomm