Help needed to identify paintings.

I can not speak to the style of the paintings as appropriate to the supposed age. The signatures in red also look a bit suspect. However, the frames appear to be better than those typically found on factory paintings and have some age. Also, what looks suspiciously like a plywood luan panel in the photo may actually be a mahogany board. I think I see a bit of a relatively thick bevel at the bottom where the paper is torn. Perhaps a better photo of this area could clear this up. Likewise, I agree the paper looks suspiciously aged. A photo in less bright light might help to see this better as well. While some of the red flags of factory paintings are present, I think these bear some more investigation.

 

THANK YOU for putting it succinctly.

Often, estate and or other type sales include OTHER ARTWORKS (or glass or antiques or whatever) from OTHER OLD SALES. Nothing is assured because you purchased more than 2 pieces of art.

The style being French is not surprising and I have seen such before in factory naive type of paintings.

Yes, thhis will be thhe best thingg. If you find some ggood amount of FILTH beneath the edge, you will know the paintingg is indeed old, otherwise not.

excellent sugggestion, thank you Debora

The position of the chickens is also "factory" in execution, repeated over and over in various similar paintings. As VeryBrad also mentioned, thhe red ink is suspicious as for Asian factory oil paintings. Thhe fact that the frames both match in style, but the siggnatures do not match is suspicious.

Apologgies about my sticky keyboard!

 

@Montrestar , when you run your hand across the back, do you get a certain amount of old color rub off onto your fingertips?

I ask because the back appears to have been dyed a "gray" tone, and wonder how stable the color that appears dyed is?

These paintings are appealing, attractive subjects. It will be a learning experience for us all to see what you find beneath the frame, both front, back, sides, details. Thank you so much for showin us and please excuse my keyboard malfunctioningg..

 

there are no Estate Sales in France except for high-priced sales by known auction houses that are per contract not allowed to abuse the house etc. to mix crap with the original stuff. if not properly declared then it's the courts.

 

I will visit the restorer this week for the removal of the paintings from the frames.
I have spoke to her and she says they are correct once more but says she will remove them for me as I have other paintings to collect and to take down for repair.
I have found some pictures pre cleaning and before the frames were repaired.

 

I doubt you will find any information on the artist of these paintings. It appears to be done by someone who had some skill but not a pro. The claws of the chickens look like they are floating on top of the grass. The windmill in the background in the second painting is not very well done. If you are restoring to keep thats one thing but if you are restoring to re sell these paintings dont bother.

 

I hope these turn out to be as you believe. They do have charm.

 

Well since there are no swindlers selling bogus antique arts in the country of France, how very, very fortunate you are!

I've never heard of a frame "repaired" with the artwork still inside though..

 

Thank you for your input but art is seen in a different light by different people.
I've sold lots and lots of paintings and these will sell I'm sure of it.
I mean some people like Mark Rothco or Jackson Pollock but I think it's rubbish that's my opinion like that's your opinion on my paintings.
Like I say we don't all like the same things what a boring life it would be if we did....

 

not as fortunate as more simple-minded countries.
who remembers the difference between
"maison de vente aux enchères" or short "maison de vente"
antiqaire
brocante
marché aux puces
vide-grenier
occase