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<p>[QUOTE="Jim Goodykoontz, post: 11966569, member: 82566"]hi everyone. i have been trying to identify and date this little piece of embroidery art from China for a couple of months now. i've posted it on the Asian Arts Forum and gotten no comments. i tried Reddit with similar results. i've come to believe this might be an extremely old and unique piece. however, one of the problems with things like this is there are very few who might be able to help with identifying it. the embroidery art in the center measures 8.5" x 4" from edge to edge. the entire piece measures 14"x 9.5". i do know that these panels were being manufactured during the Republic period in China. i believe some entrepreneur of the day was gathering old embroidery art and cutting it into smaller panels like this, sewing up a nice presentation around them and exporting them en masse. i've actually found a couple of these Republic era panels online that were probably made at the same time and they have nice examples of 19th century Chinese embroidery art in them. in this case, this piece has many characteristics of embroidery art that might date this from the 7th or 8th centuries. the use of chainstitch embroidery is a technique that was used in ancient times. it was actually during the Tang dynasty that they first started using satin stitch. stylistically, i've discovered that this art is what is described as the "peony tang grass pattern," and dates from the Tang Dynasty. also, i can not find anything else of Chinese decent that looks anything like it(pieces from that era are extremely rare). that phoenix has a very cool antique/primitive look to it. the only real alternative is that this was made years later as some sort of "retro" piece. but the Chinese weren't really doing that in the 18th and 19th centuries. so, i'm stumped. what i am considering is radiocarbon dating. that's going to cost $400. i'm hoping someone here might have a suggestion or know someone i can contact(just try to find a contact link on a Chinese museum's website). any ideas will be appreciated...thanks</p><p>[ATTACH=full]550680[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]550681[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]550682[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]550683[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]550684[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]550685[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]550686[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jim Goodykoontz, post: 11966569, member: 82566"]hi everyone. i have been trying to identify and date this little piece of embroidery art from China for a couple of months now. i've posted it on the Asian Arts Forum and gotten no comments. i tried Reddit with similar results. i've come to believe this might be an extremely old and unique piece. however, one of the problems with things like this is there are very few who might be able to help with identifying it. the embroidery art in the center measures 8.5" x 4" from edge to edge. the entire piece measures 14"x 9.5". i do know that these panels were being manufactured during the Republic period in China. i believe some entrepreneur of the day was gathering old embroidery art and cutting it into smaller panels like this, sewing up a nice presentation around them and exporting them en masse. i've actually found a couple of these Republic era panels online that were probably made at the same time and they have nice examples of 19th century Chinese embroidery art in them. in this case, this piece has many characteristics of embroidery art that might date this from the 7th or 8th centuries. the use of chainstitch embroidery is a technique that was used in ancient times. it was actually during the Tang dynasty that they first started using satin stitch. stylistically, i've discovered that this art is what is described as the "peony tang grass pattern," and dates from the Tang Dynasty. also, i can not find anything else of Chinese decent that looks anything like it(pieces from that era are extremely rare). that phoenix has a very cool antique/primitive look to it. the only real alternative is that this was made years later as some sort of "retro" piece. but the Chinese weren't really doing that in the 18th and 19th centuries. so, i'm stumped. what i am considering is radiocarbon dating. that's going to cost $400. i'm hoping someone here might have a suggestion or know someone i can contact(just try to find a contact link on a Chinese museum's website). any ideas will be appreciated...thanks [ATTACH=full]550680[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]550681[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]550682[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]550683[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]550684[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]550685[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]550686[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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