help with id of cherub figural trinket holder/vase

hi guys

anyone have any info on this

bit unsure about it as condition is pretty darn good

no marks to identify

glaze has got a blue tinge

not sure what you would call it either

any info or comments appreciated

 

Sweet. For salt and pepper? Condiments? Two devilled eggs?
He seems to prefer the one to his left.

 

good call Aj thanks, condiments makes sense

i just hope he's not AIMING anything to the left, the thought did cross my mind

 

https://www.woolleyandwallis.co.uk/departments/european-ceramics/pg120213/view-lot/202/
Perhaps his older sister? Sweetmeat?

 

Similar, capodimonte with no bowls...I would send the link, but picclick seems to have a real problem these days of matching the link with the piece you think you are going to see!

Maybe this is the stash of "egg bowls" that your cherub got his from?
https://www.trocadero.com/stores/judith/items/1388452/Antique-Hirsch-Dresden-Egg-Dish

 

The little rascal stole them for his devilled eggs.

 

thanks for the info flip

looks like germany is a good direction to look into

the flowers look quite similarly done to the to the egg dish

strange mine not having some kind of mark though

 

IMO not German, glaze fracture shown in pic under foot points to a non-hard-paste body. Flowers are also extremely non-German in execution.

<edit> although, this one is KPM ..modelling seems cruder (later) than yours but must be the same mould one would think ...Nah, the KPM one is a copy of yours.

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/d...erlin-hand-painted-double-salt/id-f_11584553/

 

Herend copied it too, maybe original (yours) is Derby, could be, colours are right, body is non-Germanic too.. BTW these are called double master salts.

https://www.replacements.com/p/herend-chinese-bouquet-rust-aog-double-salt-dip/herchbrus/90303281

 

thanks for the info blooey, i hoped youd stop by

i did wonder that, it seems more like pottery than porcelain

i think i read that the blue tinge is indicative of a tin glaze

do we think genuinely old then ?

 

cool inh thanks for the info, thats what we used to call our chemistry teacher

a large head he had not

 

This KPM has some similarities, but looks as if other factories made their own versions. I like yours, the flowers and the figure are sweet.

 

I'd say yes, not sure how old, safe to say 19thc, could be earylish too - BUT that's just a guess. It's quite a bit nicer then those other ones ...trick to identity is finding out what was the ORIGINAL design before the others jumped on the bandwagon. It has French sensibility and I know Derby did a bit of imitative stuff but other factories did too. (later, like Minton)

Anyway, keep looking, good score Charlie, well done.

If English it would be porcelain too, but a bone china variant.

 

thanks blooey, i appreciate your input

 

similar at WP
https://www.worthpoint.com/inventory/search?query=cherub+porcelain+double+salt&category=

 

thanks tallcakes, can open, worms everywhere

 

At very first glance, I got an Italian vibe, kind of nove rose (spelling?) type of painting. But I’m probably barking up the wrong tree.