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<p>[QUOTE="Jeff Drum, post: 10513718, member: 6444"]Oh boy, here comes a whole lot more typing.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reason I am trying to keep it short is that there have been pickers and collectors who come on here and want to believe the stuff they bought was real, and then want to engage in long-winded battles and put downs instead of having a real discussion. I am not interested in the former, and am trying to restrict real discussions to those who have a good base of knowledge. Since that latter definitely includes you, Brad, and since you asked the question, I will take time to answer in detail. Bearing in mind that we really should have much better pics before spending more time on this - new pics sometimes take things in a whole new direction.</p><p><br /></p><p>So what do I see that concerns me, meaning not that it proves fakery yet but that these are things I expect to be different so need further examination and exploration.</p><p><br /></p><p>Pic 1 - lack of legs and what looks from here to be reproduction dentil moulding. Lack of handles on lower doors can be ok if always opened with key, but still usually added when key lost or misplaced.</p><p><br /></p><p>Pic 2 - H-l hinges look rustic on exposed visible parts but factory done in the business part where the hinge pin is. Nor do I think they would be a typical choice for a dining room piece, more likely found in a stable/barn.</p><p><br /></p><p>Pic 3 - mortise for center rail looks ok, though thinner than I would expect, not a major concern</p><p><br /></p><p>Pic 4 - is this inside door? Looks ok other than very sharp edges on wood pieces, so this piece has never been painted, put that on list as unusual but not catastrophic.</p><p><br /></p><p>Pic 5 - this is interior, and does not show the age I would expect, too clean and sharp. Where is all the mouse poop (joke). Of the surfaces shown, these are also the ones that would get the least attention in remakes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Pic 6 - this bothers me - looks like a pinned joint (which would be good) but you don’t pin lap joints, and you especially don’t pin them inches from the lap unless there is a mortise in there we don’t see (better pics or in person evaluation).</p><p><br /></p><p>So a lot I see in first piece unexplained without better pics.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second piece even worse pics. Bothered on this piece by lack of legs, cutsie round corners all being present, door panels being made of two instead of one piece of wood, exposed nails holding up shelves, too far away to see more.</p><p><br /></p><p>Third piece has legs finally, but wheels unexpected, appreciate underneath shot (best picture location of all) but too dark to make much out. Round leg cutout in this pic seems possibly recent.</p><p><br /></p><p>So in summary, if I was looking for N Carolina rustic pieces and had only these pics to go on, I would pass. But I am only one opinion, which is why getting an expert specialist like the auction site is really called for here.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jeff Drum, post: 10513718, member: 6444"]Oh boy, here comes a whole lot more typing. The reason I am trying to keep it short is that there have been pickers and collectors who come on here and want to believe the stuff they bought was real, and then want to engage in long-winded battles and put downs instead of having a real discussion. I am not interested in the former, and am trying to restrict real discussions to those who have a good base of knowledge. Since that latter definitely includes you, Brad, and since you asked the question, I will take time to answer in detail. Bearing in mind that we really should have much better pics before spending more time on this - new pics sometimes take things in a whole new direction. So what do I see that concerns me, meaning not that it proves fakery yet but that these are things I expect to be different so need further examination and exploration. Pic 1 - lack of legs and what looks from here to be reproduction dentil moulding. Lack of handles on lower doors can be ok if always opened with key, but still usually added when key lost or misplaced. Pic 2 - H-l hinges look rustic on exposed visible parts but factory done in the business part where the hinge pin is. Nor do I think they would be a typical choice for a dining room piece, more likely found in a stable/barn. Pic 3 - mortise for center rail looks ok, though thinner than I would expect, not a major concern Pic 4 - is this inside door? Looks ok other than very sharp edges on wood pieces, so this piece has never been painted, put that on list as unusual but not catastrophic. Pic 5 - this is interior, and does not show the age I would expect, too clean and sharp. Where is all the mouse poop (joke). Of the surfaces shown, these are also the ones that would get the least attention in remakes. Pic 6 - this bothers me - looks like a pinned joint (which would be good) but you don’t pin lap joints, and you especially don’t pin them inches from the lap unless there is a mortise in there we don’t see (better pics or in person evaluation). So a lot I see in first piece unexplained without better pics. Second piece even worse pics. Bothered on this piece by lack of legs, cutsie round corners all being present, door panels being made of two instead of one piece of wood, exposed nails holding up shelves, too far away to see more. Third piece has legs finally, but wheels unexpected, appreciate underneath shot (best picture location of all) but too dark to make much out. Round leg cutout in this pic seems possibly recent. So in summary, if I was looking for N Carolina rustic pieces and had only these pics to go on, I would pass. But I am only one opinion, which is why getting an expert specialist like the auction site is really called for here.[/QUOTE]
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