Help with two very different pieces, please

#1

I am thinking this is a print or etching. I always have problems figuring them out. Which do you think it is or is it something completely different? Also, I can read the last name as Thomas and the first initial as possibly an M. Can you make it out or recognize it?
#2 The only thing I can think of on this is Alice in Wonderland or some acid trip painting. I don't see any signature and the material it is painted on reminds me of a grocery store paper bag. What is this? Recognize anything?

Any help on either of these two is much appreciated.

 

Marion....Miriam.....
paper may be hand made.......& looks like an etching...maybe stone litho...

the 2nd is I think ethnic.....tapa cloth....or....I can't think at the moment..

 

Your attached files are of a bark painting from the state of Guerrero in México.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amate

Debora

 

I kept thinking block print Thank you all

 

Second is a Mexican papel amate painting.

 

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Signed-Frame...s-Etching-Cynthia-2-/122113516767?_mwBanner=1

Found this by the title, someone else knows if you have a print or what, but that’s the artist info. Wait for clarification from someone who knows better!

 

I searched it and came up with bupkis lol Ty!

 

Gotta research this Never heard of them ty!

 

Like I said, ck out the one I sent you with someone. It’s just for reference. Thanks, just want to be clear I don’t know from the art aspect. Nice finds!

 

That’s him. Good going Huntingtreasure!

 

I've never heard of him either, surprise surprise, but that's the name I was reading and it's the same image. No clues who Norm was, but it's not a student work. Students don't make editions of 100 and number them.

 

Lots of information on him on internet. Here's one source.

https://essexuu.org/n_m_thomas.html

Debora

 

Thank you!

 

The technique looks aquatint to me.