Here's a big topic about modern silver makers and silver art business

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Asian Fever, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    Rhode Island School of Design (RISD) got a ton of Gorham silver and their records when they went out of business years ago and has a room on permanent display. Gorham made everything from meh silver and silver plate utilitarian ware, to incredible hand made art pieces. I may not understand what you mean by exhibition, but there is currently a big exhibition of Gorham silver history at RISD museum in Providence, RI through Dec. 1 which will travel after that: https://risdmuseum.org/exhibitions-events/exhibitions/gorham-silver This is much more than the silver room they have on permanent display.
    Or are you asking about places where you can exhibit current new production hand made pieces? If so, I don't know of any?
     
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  2. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

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  3. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    Don't know where you live, but its not too late to see it in person. I've spent lots of time in their silver room, and plan to go to the exhibit but haven't been yet; my daughter went there and lives in Providence but so far we've been too busy when I've been down to visit her. I may need to make a secret trip without telling her so I can spend the day there (no, I wouldn't do that, would I??)
     
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  4. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    No one in the USA buys sterling anymore since they do not want to polish it. That is except for Mr Nate or me or one or two others. I have a large collection of sterling which will probably be dumped into the trash. A lot of mine came from the trash over the years. My White House silver I hope gets saved but everyone wants to melt it to buy Ikea furniture. Shaking my head in horror.
    greg
     
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  5. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member


    I'm in Orlando, so may see if I can get up to Charlotte when it travels there - but am planning a trip to Rhode Island at some point, my paternal grandmother's family settled in Portsmouth in the 1730s (some later involved with RI silver), and would definitely want to visit the RISD Museum. They have a small Gorham spoon that, at this point, is the only other known example of one in my collection - they had no real history on it, but I finally identified its origin.

    ~Cheryl
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    which will probably be dumped into the trash

    you can't mean that...........
     
  7. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi Komo,
    I still have neighbors that toss the silver into the dumpster every two weeks. Last month a neighbor tossed a large sterling tray in the trash. I took it out but the "lady" bent it in half before she dumped it. It brought 325 dollars at the scrap dealer.
    greg
     
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  8. coreya

    coreya Well-Known Member

    consider me Trash Greg :cigar::cigar::cigar::cigar:
     
  9. BMRT

    BMRT Jewelry cherry-picker, lover of silver

    This right here. I’m 32, most of my peers cringe when they hear I spent $120 on a silver set cameo from 1890 but can shrug off the $1200 price tag for a phone.
     
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  10. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

    Ah....
    It seems this business is only for collectors - a very tiny group of people.
     
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  11. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    Yes, people today don’t want anything that can’t go in the microwave and dishwasher :sorry:
     
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  12. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I think the answer to your question lies in the change of our social system.

    Extensive silver settings, large pieces as you describe, were originally purchased by the upper classes. World Expositions of the 1800s showcased the elaborate silver pieces showing off the workmanship of the silver houses.
    The big silver boom in the west took place in the late 1800s. At that time every food course and dish served had it's own serving piece. It got so out of hand, that the president (and I can't remember which president), actually limited the amount of pieces that could be offered in a silver service.
    Through the 1900s, it became a point of pride for a woman to set a table with good china and matching sterling.

    Fast forward to today. It is no longer fashionable to set a table the way our mother's and grandmother's did. Young people do not want to polish silver or hand wash china. For the most part, they do not have the need to impress others. There may be some areas like Silicone Valley where there is a lot of money and the need to impress people, that might actually still use these items.

    Our country made it very difficult for manufacturers to continue producing. More and more of our industries were outsourced to other countries. Individual companies were bought up by conglomerates. Which explains the loss of our companies .


    About your question in regards to exhibitions. I think you are trying to ask if there is a show in which sellers show their wares. There are whole sale shows for major companies. There also artisan shows, in which individual artists set up booths and sell their items to the public.
     
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  13. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

    Great information and explanation. Thank you so much.
     
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  14. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It's sad, but it does mean collectors can find pieces to collect now ... and I wish I lived close to Greg, so I could go trash picking where people throw literal money in the garbage! (LOL)
     
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  15. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Just for general information, this old thread delves into the suggested restrictions on stock silver flatware services, instituted by then Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover prior to his Presidency: https://www.smpub.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002518.html

    ~Cheryl
     
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  16. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

    Nice information, good knowledge for me to learn. Thank you so much
     
  17. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Hello Greg :
    Pray tell, what'll you be doing for dinner after the holiday weekend ?
    Can I come over ?
    I'll bring pie !! ......& my best dumpster diving clothes !!!!

    ;):happy::happy::happy::happy::happy::happy::eek:

    Your neighbors my friend............ need a lesson in wealth management ......
    &
    Waste Management !!!! :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::wideyed::wideyed::wideyed::wideyed::inpain::inpain:
     
  18. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Excellent
    Thank you for posting that link.
    For some reason, I had thought the limitation to pieces in a service was made earlier than 1926. Thanx.
     
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  19. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    what do you exactly mean by silver ? private collections ? like this here:
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  20. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That would do!
     
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