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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Phaik Hooi, post: 295649, member: 5831&quot;]ouch! and double ouch!! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/frown.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":(" unselectable="on" /></p><p>yes lots of Jiapu and old records were destroyed and lost during the wars in China and Malaya/Penang. some clans in China are now using Jiapu from clansmen who made copies when they left China <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie49" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>but you must have the lineage going back several centuries by now? and knowledgeable in several languages to trace the Javanese, Madurese and Peranakan line!</p><p><br /></p><p>ps: i slept <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie96" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":D" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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