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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 295744, member: 2844"]I know a tiny bit of Indonesian and have a good Javanese dictionary, that helps.</p><p>The old records of the Madurese line are all in Javanese, which was the language for many court records. Our Madurese ancestors were royalty, so that helps. Some of the records are even translated in Dutch and English. That part of the family can trace the lineage back to the prophet Muhammad, so 6th century. Muhammad's ancestry goes back to the 6th century BC, but that was a period of oral history.</p><p>The earliest Peranakan ancestor we know of, lived in Tuban in the 15th century. His daughter married into a family of very mixed Asian background, mystics and royals. They are the link to Muhammad. Her great-granddaughter married a king of Madura.</p><p><br /></p><p>The European lineage is all over the place as well.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Mostly French, German, some Dutch, and with a bit of Ashkenazic (German) Jewish and probably Sephardic (Portuguese) Jewish thrown in for good measure.</p><p>The earliest mention of my family name is in 13th century Belgian records.</p><p>The fun thing for me as a former theologian is that my ancestors come from all world religions.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":)" unselectable="on" /> And some lesser known ones.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 295744, member: 2844"]I know a tiny bit of Indonesian and have a good Javanese dictionary, that helps. The old records of the Madurese line are all in Javanese, which was the language for many court records. Our Madurese ancestors were royalty, so that helps. Some of the records are even translated in Dutch and English. That part of the family can trace the lineage back to the prophet Muhammad, so 6th century. Muhammad's ancestry goes back to the 6th century BC, but that was a period of oral history. The earliest Peranakan ancestor we know of, lived in Tuban in the 15th century. His daughter married into a family of very mixed Asian background, mystics and royals. They are the link to Muhammad. Her great-granddaughter married a king of Madura. The European lineage is all over the place as well.;) Mostly French, German, some Dutch, and with a bit of Ashkenazic (German) Jewish and probably Sephardic (Portuguese) Jewish thrown in for good measure. The earliest mention of my family name is in 13th century Belgian records. The fun thing for me as a former theologian is that my ancestors come from all world religions.:) And some lesser known ones.[/QUOTE]
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