Identify please this picture?

Discussion in 'Art' started by Iouri, Nov 14, 2019.

  1. Iouri

    Iouri Active Member

    Can anybody tell me anything about this painting?Thank you. IMG_2430.jpg IMG_2441.jpg IMG_2440.jpg IMG_2442.jpg IMG_2434.jpg IMG_2441.jpg IMG_2440.jpg IMG_2442.jpg IMG_2434.jpg
     
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  2. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Based on style and framing circa 1920. Frame may be more valuable than the painting.
     
  3. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Looks to be somewhere in Holland
     
  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, the scene is Dutch, and most likely one of the Holland towns in the West of the Netherlands.
    It could be old Rotterdam, before it was bombed in WWII, with the Laurenskerk (church) in the background. The picture is certainly pre-war, I would guess late 19th century.
    The Laurenskerk survived the bombing, most other buildings did not:

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  5. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I absolutely love the frame. It is gorgeous.
    greg
     
  6. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    Sepia wash with white highlights...Hard to tell from the pics if the overall color is the wash, or if it's acid damage.
     
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  7. Iouri

    Iouri Active Member

    Yes i can see little was wet on top of pucture ,rest is good, no damage.Thank you.
     
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  8. Iouri

    Iouri Active Member

    Frame and painting ,fit together,look's good. Thank you.
     
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  9. Iouri

    Iouri Active Member

    Who drawed pucture.Vicent Van Gogh?Thank you.
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It was someone with the initials WB.
    Vincent van Gogh's style and technique were very different.
     
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  11. Iouri

    Iouri Active Member

    You right.Flowers on frame made not from wood.What is it .I do not ?Thank you.
     
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  12. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    This type of decoration is called Composition Ornament.

    Here's a description of the process:

    In one container, chunks of amber colored pine rosin or the cheaper black pitch were heated in linseed oil until they melted together and combined completely. In another container (often a double-boiler), previously soaked chunks of animal glue derived from skins and hides were cooked and blended into a uniformly thick solution. The two liquid components were then stirred together. This "batter" was made into a pliable "dough" in a way familiar to any baker. It was poured into a cratered pile of whiting and first mixed with a spatula until it was thick enough to be kneaded by hand. Vigorous folding and kneading in of more whiting was done until the composition had a consistency like modeling clay and was completely uniform.

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    The "whiting" refers to chalk.
     
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  13. Iouri

    Iouri Active Member

    Thank you very much ,you explained to me.what do you thing is this pucture has some value,or....?
     
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  14. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I'm not really the one to place a value artwork.
     
  15. Iouri

    Iouri Active Member

    How much is it?Nails on frame ,looks old?Thank you.
     
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  16. Iouri

    Iouri Active Member

    It's ok.I was lookig for.Who has sugnature ,,WB'',difficult to find.thank you.
     
  17. Iouri

    Iouri Active Member

    Same place.A view of the Blaak Rotterdam by Johannes Christiaan Karel .Klinkenberg.Thank you.
     
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  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Oh, wonderful. Glad to have been of help.
     
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  19. Iouri

    Iouri Active Member

    Hi.
    Willem Bastiaan Tholen,Amsterdam painter He lived 1860-1931,it could be his marks ,,WB''?Thank you.
     
  20. shallow_ocean_spectre

    shallow_ocean_spectre fine.books' bumping squirrel

    @Iouri - Probably not. Tholen typically signed with his first initial and surname:

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