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<p>[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 53732, member: 44"]I have ponder over these engraving also with no great luck. First of all FIN may be found on French, Swiss and Belgium pewter in one form or another. France may have Etain Fin, Estain Fin, etc. German, Hungarian, Austria and some Swiss pewter may have Zinn/zien while the Scandinavian countries tend to use a form of Ten/tin. Some of the above words for pewter have been used in a multitude of the countries. I thought the writing German. As Spring said it could be Hungarian. I know nothing about the Hungarian language. In the first pic I thought the person was holding the 2 crossbars cross of Lorraine. I thought the Papal cross had 3 cross bars? I couldn't come up with the names like Fig and Spring have. "Der Dritte" is the 3rd in German. I also thought a pope because of the head gear.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the 2nd one I went through the Hanbal and Hannibals coming up with nothing. I don't think he is religiously related to the others because of the lack of any Christian symbolism?</p><p><br /></p><p>I have no idea on the 3rd one.</p><p><br /></p><p>I tried the many Friedericks for the 4th pic. I thought possibly Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor, 1194-1250., He was of the house of Hohenstaufen, a line of German kings. One of the many titles he carried was King of Germany. Some historians considered him the first modern ruler. The big draw back on this was not being able to associate "der eyt" to him. I wasn't able to translate "eyt."</p><p><br /></p><p>--- Susan[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 53732, member: 44"]I have ponder over these engraving also with no great luck. First of all FIN may be found on French, Swiss and Belgium pewter in one form or another. France may have Etain Fin, Estain Fin, etc. German, Hungarian, Austria and some Swiss pewter may have Zinn/zien while the Scandinavian countries tend to use a form of Ten/tin. Some of the above words for pewter have been used in a multitude of the countries. I thought the writing German. As Spring said it could be Hungarian. I know nothing about the Hungarian language. In the first pic I thought the person was holding the 2 crossbars cross of Lorraine. I thought the Papal cross had 3 cross bars? I couldn't come up with the names like Fig and Spring have. "Der Dritte" is the 3rd in German. I also thought a pope because of the head gear. On the 2nd one I went through the Hanbal and Hannibals coming up with nothing. I don't think he is religiously related to the others because of the lack of any Christian symbolism? I have no idea on the 3rd one. I tried the many Friedericks for the 4th pic. I thought possibly Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor, 1194-1250., He was of the house of Hohenstaufen, a line of German kings. One of the many titles he carried was King of Germany. Some historians considered him the first modern ruler. The big draw back on this was not being able to associate "der eyt" to him. I wasn't able to translate "eyt." --- Susan[/QUOTE]
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