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<p>[QUOTE="IvaPan, post: 9537140, member: 78949"]The sideline dicussion here, about which empire is the nastiest, is rather pointless, IMO, as there can't be a definite answer because they all have been equally monstrous. Same is the Russian Empire. Because it was victorious in WWII, contrary to Nazi Germany and Japan, it often is omitted when speaking about atrocities, which is not right, IMO. "The victorious are not judged" - a saying attributed to the Russian empress Catherine II.</p><p><br /></p><p>As a member of society directly affected by the Russians I can say that they also did all you mentioned, except maybe extermination camps as Stalin was more practical and preferred first to use the free labour of the millions he considered inferior, before taking their lives. Stalin is said to have slautered more Russians than Hitler, not to mention non-Russians.</p><p><br /></p><p>And one crucial difference - while both Germany and Japan have admitted their fault and have been distancing from their imperial past, Russia remains there, with the same monstrous thinking and doings, just see what they do in Ukraine! Fortunately, they are not as powerful as in the past but they still can do enough harm to the world <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/frown.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":(" unselectable="on" /> especially to the unfortunate nations who happened to be their neighbours. This is huge and very important difference, IMO. In my view it is because they were victorious in WWII and were given half of Europe as a reward. They have never been forced by circumsnaces to think over and realise their monstrousness.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IvaPan, post: 9537140, member: 78949"]The sideline dicussion here, about which empire is the nastiest, is rather pointless, IMO, as there can't be a definite answer because they all have been equally monstrous. Same is the Russian Empire. Because it was victorious in WWII, contrary to Nazi Germany and Japan, it often is omitted when speaking about atrocities, which is not right, IMO. "The victorious are not judged" - a saying attributed to the Russian empress Catherine II. As a member of society directly affected by the Russians I can say that they also did all you mentioned, except maybe extermination camps as Stalin was more practical and preferred first to use the free labour of the millions he considered inferior, before taking their lives. Stalin is said to have slautered more Russians than Hitler, not to mention non-Russians. And one crucial difference - while both Germany and Japan have admitted their fault and have been distancing from their imperial past, Russia remains there, with the same monstrous thinking and doings, just see what they do in Ukraine! Fortunately, they are not as powerful as in the past but they still can do enough harm to the world :( especially to the unfortunate nations who happened to be their neighbours. This is huge and very important difference, IMO. In my view it is because they were victorious in WWII and were given half of Europe as a reward. They have never been forced by circumsnaces to think over and realise their monstrousness.[/QUOTE]
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