Log in or Sign up
Antiques Board
Home
Forums
>
Antique Forums
>
Antique Discussion
>
John Speed Map of Surrey
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Jeff Drum, post: 376051, member: 6444"]Maps can be complicated since they were sometimes reproduced many times, so there can be multiple antique editions, as well as modern reproductions. This seems to be from a book first published in 1612, but republished many times up to 1770: <a href="http://dg-maps.com/john-speed.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://dg-maps.com/john-speed.html" rel="nofollow">http://dg-maps.com/john-speed.html</a></p><p>"Speed took the first step with his home county of Cheshire, completing the map with one of the earliest town plans of Chester, Armes and vignettes which were to become his signature style. Engraved by William Rogers, this map was published individually in 1604. He continued to cover all the counties of England and Wales . The resulting atlas, finally published in 1612, was titled <i>The</i> <i>Theatre of the Empire of Great Britaine</i>. This remarkable work was published in partnership with the already established house of John Sudbury and George Humble. The Theatre was a great success and was published again many times and by a number of publishers: Sudbury and Humble notably published their second edition of The Theatre in 1627, the last edition to be published before Speed died. Some later, posthumous editions of Speed county maps can be seen published by a number of names: perhaps the most frequently seen of these later editions was by Bassett and Chiswell in 1676. Various other versions by Overton, Rea, Browne and Dicey can be found struck as late as 1770, (please see below)."</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's one reported to be from a 1676 edition: <a href="https://www.antique-maps-online.co.uk/surrey-speed-2447.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.antique-maps-online.co.uk/surrey-speed-2447.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.antique-maps-online.co.uk/surrey-speed-2447.html</a></p><p>And one for sale now from the first edition: <a href="https://www.swangallery.co.uk/map1000416/old-maps/england/surrey/map-by-john-speed.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.swangallery.co.uk/map1000416/old-maps/england/surrey/map-by-john-speed.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.swangallery.co.uk/map1000416/old-maps/england/surrey/map-by-john-speed.html</a></p><p>Someone who deals with old maps would be able to tell how to distinguish between the different antique editions of this particular map; usually subtle differences in the engraving or coloring or paper type or size. You may be able to figure a lot of it out by searching and comparing online. For example why is yours black and white and the ones online colored - has yours lost the colors or were not all editions colored - you'll find there is lots to research.</p><p><br /></p><p>You should start by figuring out how old the paper of yours is to be sure it isn't a relatively modern reproduction.</p><p><br /></p><p>Condition is clearly a problem with your map, and will obviously affect value a great deal if you find yours is antique.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nice find! I too love old maps.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jeff Drum, post: 376051, member: 6444"]Maps can be complicated since they were sometimes reproduced many times, so there can be multiple antique editions, as well as modern reproductions. This seems to be from a book first published in 1612, but republished many times up to 1770: [URL]http://dg-maps.com/john-speed.html[/URL] "Speed took the first step with his home county of Cheshire, completing the map with one of the earliest town plans of Chester, Armes and vignettes which were to become his signature style. Engraved by William Rogers, this map was published individually in 1604. He continued to cover all the counties of England and Wales . The resulting atlas, finally published in 1612, was titled [I]The[/I] [I]Theatre of the Empire of Great Britaine[/I]. This remarkable work was published in partnership with the already established house of John Sudbury and George Humble. The Theatre was a great success and was published again many times and by a number of publishers: Sudbury and Humble notably published their second edition of The Theatre in 1627, the last edition to be published before Speed died. Some later, posthumous editions of Speed county maps can be seen published by a number of names: perhaps the most frequently seen of these later editions was by Bassett and Chiswell in 1676. Various other versions by Overton, Rea, Browne and Dicey can be found struck as late as 1770, (please see below)." Here's one reported to be from a 1676 edition: [URL]https://www.antique-maps-online.co.uk/surrey-speed-2447.html[/URL] And one for sale now from the first edition: [URL]https://www.swangallery.co.uk/map1000416/old-maps/england/surrey/map-by-john-speed.html[/URL] Someone who deals with old maps would be able to tell how to distinguish between the different antique editions of this particular map; usually subtle differences in the engraving or coloring or paper type or size. You may be able to figure a lot of it out by searching and comparing online. For example why is yours black and white and the ones online colored - has yours lost the colors or were not all editions colored - you'll find there is lots to research. You should start by figuring out how old the paper of yours is to be sure it isn't a relatively modern reproduction. Condition is clearly a problem with your map, and will obviously affect value a great deal if you find yours is antique. Nice find! I too love old maps.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Antiques Board
Home
Forums
>
Antique Forums
>
Antique Discussion
>
John Speed Map of Surrey
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Registered Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...