Featured looking for info for HC dinnerware set

Hi all!

I'm new here and came across this forum while searching for info on a dinnerware set I inherited from my uncle.

He told me it was possibly purchased in the 1920's. I believe it to be Heinrich & Co, manufactured in Role Stara (or Stara Role, I've seen it both ways).

I cannot identify the pattern. I contacted replacements.com directly and they said they have no record of it. I did find a couple of HC pieces online with different patterns and slightly different backstamps. Both specifically include "Austria". As seen in the photo, my set does not.

The set is quite large. Originally, it included a place setting for 12 but is now missing a few pieces. Included are: dinner plates, salad plates, soup bowls, coffee cups and saucers, various size serving bowls, gravy boat, etc.

If anyone could provide information on the history, year of manufacture and pattern that would be awesome.

I'm interested in selling it so advice on value and how/where to sell would also be welcome.

Thanks!

 

First of all, WELCOME @JohnK!! Secondly, GREAT job on your images!! And thirdly, I'm not one of the members great on pattern IDs, so hang on and they WILL be along!! If you go back in to your post and click on the VERY TOP image that says "INSERT EVERY IMAGE FULL SIZE".....that's just what it will do .....much easier for everyone, rather than clicking on thumbnails! Thanks so much!

 

Very pretty,but unfortunately no one seems to be interested in sets of china at the moment. Thrifts are choked with them (usually Limoge) .Some still have value but thats rare stuff like Meissen and the like.

 

I agree with @johnnycb09, with the caveat that's it's not necessarily "rare" stuff that still brings good prices, but rather top-of-the-line stuff (such as Meissen)... which yours is not.
You don't say what country you are located in. In my area of the Midwest USA, I'd consider myself very lucky to get $50 for a complete dinnerware set such as yours, it is not a high-end set. Having a pattern name won't matter... many, many patterns never had a name. Also, a "rare" pattern is a drawback in this case... potential buyers will know that replacing occasional broken pieces will be nigh on impossible.
It's quite pretty, but very like the stuff often seen in the local thrifts in my large metropolitan area.
If it were me, I'd put it up on my local FaceBook Marketplace for a starting price of $100 and hope that a cottagecore enthusiast takes a liking to it.

 

Suggest you contact Replacements to sell it.
Can take the angle that since they have none in stock, they can add this LARGE SET to their inventory.

 

Agree with Bluumz on the price and methodology too!

 

Keep in mind that if you don't sell locally, shipping it will be quite a production!

 

I'm not convinced this is a Heinrich mark.

 

you've chosen one of the worst brands to investigate.
Austria was over in 1918, but till the official founding or rather take-over by the new Czecho-Slovakia remnants were still sold with Austria or without country at all.
Role-Stara was Altrohlau just on the outskirts of Carlsbad or Karlsbad and all the old small porcelain factories changed their names and owners like underpants. Moritz Zdekauer - a Viennese investor had a few companies around Karlsbad and marked properly with MZ, but afterwards ... hell.

 

don't think they really had a choice............

 

Shown mark is not the mark of a producer but that of the responsible US importer/distributor, Hinrich & Co. (note the spelling) from New York which was active between 1886 and 1898 in that form. The business was formerly known as Charles Hinrich Imports until his son took over 1886.

 

I'd be highly amazed if ANYTHING left the realms of the Österreichisches Kronland Böhmen marked in Czech. even to the USA.

 

it's anyway a joke. in proper Czech it would be Starà Role.

 

We shouldn't be surprised that a New York importer would get the name backwards.

 

but certainly nobody would have dared to mark with a Czech lion in Austria between 1886 and 1898...

 

it seems - not for the first time - certain people have not the slightest idea of the history of the Hapsburg Empire. from the Kronländer - or crownlands - Czechia was the most "unruly" but from the industrial and military power level if not above Hungary at least on same level. Vienna - in its godgiven stupidity - started to impose clearly anti-Czech legislations; a.o. every official representatif of state down to the last postmaster in the smallest village had to understand, speak , read and write German - if not they were sacked.
so it's out of question that the right honorable Mister Hinrich from NY would have received porcelain marked in such a way as shown. the responsibles of the factory would have gone to jail if not court-martialled immediately.

 

Thanks to all for the great input.

I was questioning the "Role Stara" myself as I saw it on a map as Stara Role. Interesting stuff.

My first thought in terms of selling was also FB Marketplace. Agreed, shipping would be a nightmare. Maybe I'll reach out to Replacements again and see if they're interested, but again... shipping.

Thanks for the help!

 

the day before yesterday I had my good old friend Miroslav on the phone. born in Prague, brought up in Switzerland, living somewhere in Malaysia now. when I told him about it and that it was on a site by a German-Anglosaxon he only sighed and used some unprintable words...
so we dropped it and went on exchanging Gulash and Strudel recipes.
P.S. Stara means old and Role is the Czech phonetic form for Rohlau...