Featured Lotus Blossom Shakers with Insects Japan?

Discussion in 'Silver' started by cxgirl, May 21, 2016.

  1. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I picked this pair of shakers up and trying to find out more about them.
    No marks, some sort of metal, maybe plated? I'm wondering if they are from Japan. The leaf/base is bent, do you think they were made like this or someone did it? The bends raise them up a bit, but not sure. Maybe early 1900s? They are 1"H. Maybe a pair of salt and pepper or two peppers missing the open salts?
    Any information appreciated!
    Thanks for looking
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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    All I can tell you is - they're adorable!!
     
  3. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    thanks bakers, I agree!
     
  4. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    The wear on that right ones leaf sure makes me think they are silver ,besides , don't they just LOOK like silver ? Are they heavy ? Werent insects more an 1870s-80s thing ? Don't ask me why , but I get a british vibe ? I agree they are adorable as well . :)
     
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  5. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    They're adorable, but how the hell do you fill them?? They've got holes at both ends!! :eek:
     
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  6. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi Shangas,
    Most shakers have holes at both ends. If a shaker has holes at only one end how do you fill them? I think they are gorgeous.:rolleyes:
    greg
     
  7. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Yeah but it'd be so messy!!
     
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  8. Ruedi

    Ruedi Active Member

    wonderful!!!!
     
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  9. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    Do you fill your salt and pepper shakers from the top? :oops:

    Those are super neat shakers, CX. Yes, maybe two peppers, but look more like salts.
     
  10. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    I have some crystal salt & pepper shakers shaped like lighthouses that have openings only the in bottom. Most have screw tops, but there are a lot out there that don't.
     
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  11. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    She unscrewed the leaf on the bottom......
     
  12. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Cute as a "bug's ear"!!!!!
     
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  13. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    I love these. Insects were popular during the Art Nouveau period as well, especially the dragonfly. I think the bends were meant to be that way. Have you tested it for silver?
     
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  14. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Not where I can check any references at the moment, but having the same number of same size holes would lean me toward pepperettes missing their salts. Something about them is ringing a bell in the recesses of my cluttered head, but can't seem to pin it down. They're Chrysanthemum buds and leaves rather than Lotus...

    ~Cheryl
     
  15. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    I'm old but not quite 116. So not that familiar what other spices or solid condiments might be on a table towards the end of the Victorian era. Might these be for something other than S&P?
     
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  16. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

  17. LIbraryLady

    LIbraryLady Well-Known Member

    They are marvelous. I think that they are both peppers, and that salt corroded the hole areas of the matching salt shakers.
    Just lovely.
     
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  18. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thank-you folks for all the replies:) I will have to get them tested to see if they are silver.
    Shangas if you hold them at an angle not much will come out.
    Guess I should learn my flowers, lol - thanks dragonfly!
    Thanks for the listing cluttered! I notice that listing and the one below both say 1950s, I thought they would have been older
    Looks like they are peppers, I found the open salts last night. The leaf on the bottom is bent like on mine too! It sold for $150 in 2008
    https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/4998100_japanese-silver-sterling-salt-pepper-flower-bug
     
  19. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Very unusual and beautiful! Great find.
     
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  20. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Still not where I can check my references on salts or Asian silver, but can't shake a feeling of familiarity on these (may have just been that I've run across them when shopping or researching my Mom's salt collection). Have little doubt that they are at least .925 fineness, and frankly, the lack of a 'Sterling' mark on a post WWII piece seems unlikely. Over the years have seen Japanese pieces bearing maker's or retailer's marks that couldn't date any later than the early 20th century, but also finding much later marks on identical or very similar items - as in many areas, there isn't always a narrow dating window. The figural 'Geisha' souvenir spoons are a perfect example, found bearing a variety of marks, from late Meiji to mid 20th century (they are pictured in an Asian goods catalog from around 1915-20)...

    ~Cheryl
     
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