Featured Lovely art nouveau something or the other !

Discussion in 'Silver' started by johnnycb09, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Hi all. Picked this lovely thing up a few days ago,and I must say I dont think Ive ever encountered something quite so deeply tarnished ! I should have taken a before pic.its 4 1/2 by 4 1/2 and marked "800" .It had an old dealer tag on it that had no info,just a bunch of numbers.That square is what the rest should look like,but after my hands started cramping I gave up for a while. I found it in a shop I rarely venture into as they have no air conditioning in a big old warehouse ! The lady who runs it saw me looking at it and said thats not sterling but you can polish it with...wait for it...Brasso ! Shades of the DEEP ! Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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  2. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Very nice! Could have had an interior and been once a jardinière:)
     
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  3. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    I thought maybe so. I havent found anything like it so far.But then thats no surprise since I cant find diddly squat anymore !
     
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  4. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    LOVE IT !!! ... Joy. :)
     
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  5. alex webb

    alex webb Well-Known Member

    she reminds me of wmfb mucha jugendstil

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  6. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    TOO FUNNY!!! It's absolutely lovely. Johnny, it's become difficult to find good stuff even in my port city. Made it easier for me to back off of the hunt. I searched around in the New Orleans French Quarter this weekend for ANYTHING nice enough to buy (in between stopping at jazz clubs lol). Stuff was a reasonable price, surprisingly, but I bought only ONE item. (Surely paid too much for it, but it's a cool piece, I will try to post it another day because I could use some help on it.)

    @alex webb what is that beautiful piece you've got there? I LOVE that period of Art Nouveau. :cat:
     
  7. alex webb

    alex webb Well-Known Member

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  8. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Wow,thank you ! So someone put a silver panel in the one I have ? The rest is tin plated ? I had no idea tin would tarnish . Why does mine not have the marks on the foot ? Im so confused now !
     
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  9. alex webb

    alex webb Well-Known Member

    i guess britannia metal is tin. i assumed thick silver for yours. they did it all.

    as = antique silver finish
    B = Britannia-metal
    bg = gilt base
    ep = electro-plated
    gg = entirely gilt

    go = parcel-gilt
    ig = gilt interior
    I/O = Normal thickness of gilding or silver-plating
    M = brass
    MB = partly brass, partly Britannia metal
    N NS = nickel-silver
    O silver-plate deposit, 50% thicker than the normal coating
    OX = oxidized
    zg = fancy gilt
     
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  10. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    The description on the one you posted describes it as "Tin plated with glass insert".Am I mistaken in thinking WMF was mainly silver plate ?
     
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  11. alex webb

    alex webb Well-Known Member

    silver plate. i have never seen anything like the unit with the insert. its almost an impossible looking thing.
     
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  12. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the input. The 800 stamp made me think the whole thing was solid silver,but theres not much doubt its WMF. Not the end of the world,it still seems to go for good prices .
     
  13. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    where does this list come from ?
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is a gorgeous tea glass holder. Teegläser is the plural of the German word Teeglas, which means tea glass. The 'Teeglas' would be put in a lovely holder like yours, so your fingers don't get burnt.:)
     
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  15. alex webb

    alex webb Well-Known Member

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  16. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    So interesting, thanks all! :cat:
     
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  17. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Can someone explain the 800 silver stamp if the item is silver plated ? I seem to be fixated on that issue,though Ive no doubt it is WMF.
     
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  18. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    aah okay. this "Professor" is a complete weirdo. he made up this list after he found out that his German was soooo brilliant, that he didn't need to know the history of WMF nor the basics about different metals.
    two examples only.
    I/O. this was first used by the old Werkmeister and simply means "in Ordnung"; what he mentions about 1 gram per decimeter of silver is (one of the) the official German standard for flatware.

    Britannia metal was not rare and is an alloy that some include into the pewter family, some don't. the big advantage is the possibility that you can polish it till it looks like silver (Oscar statuets etc.)
     
  19. Dawnno

    Dawnno Well-Known Member

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    one of those... "OMG I'm so stupid" moments. [i.e., my true initial thought] substitute the 8 for the B and the B for the E and zero for the D and another zero for the O, and I got it 100% right!
     
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  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    You are right to be fixated, it says 800, which to me is a silver mark as well. WMF made silver objects, as well as non-precious and plated objects.
     
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