Mark Twain Cigarette Box

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by KEVIN AIREY, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    Is that lettering below the standing chap's feet?
     
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  2. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    YES!! If only I could make it out! All I can see is the word “ENJOYING”.
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    Increasingly likely that it’s a book illustration IMO, but I can’t place the scene :(
     
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  3. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    There is a Wilkes pipe tobacco and of course Wills. If the picture is contemporary it would have to be a super-early tobacco tin. It has a 1910-20-ish "vibe" to me.
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Tweaked it a bit.
    'Wily (something) enjoying another (something)?' Could be reading that all wrong though.
    And it looks like there is the word tobacco in the line below that.

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  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Clever you all for spotting lettering.

    Debora
     
  6. KEVIN AIREY

    KEVIN AIREY Well-Known Member

    Hey I need to look more closely - After Mar Twain the note has a ?.
    Therefore I agree with the Dickension path. I must find the characters.
     
  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Those figures are not wearing clothing from the Victorian / Dickensian era.

    Debora
     
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  8. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    OP - is there some reason that you can't let us know the size of the tin, or perhaps try for a better image of the lettering?

    ~Cheryl
     
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  9. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Haven't much beyond basics on fashion dating, so can't defend my 'Dickensian' comment other than to say that the image reminds me of illustrations used in period Dickens publications (not that I necessarily think it is actually from Dickens, or the box from the period). Was initially reminded of Uriah Heep in my favorite 'David Copperfield', but while they did have an adult encounter with coffee, coming in the door doesn't fit the scene - 'Little Dorrit' was another thought, with Chivery bringing food to Clennam in prison, but not really right either. Suspect it might be helpful if more of the lettering could be made out (the first word looks like 'WHAT' to me, but my eyes are especially weak today)...


    Some 'Little Dorrit' images here:

    http://www.victorianweb.org/art/illustration/phiz/197.html



    This illustration by H.K. Browne (Phiz) is from 1850, when 'David Copperfield' was first published in book form, showing Copperfield running into the odious Heep while on a prison tour:

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    ~Cheryl
     
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  10. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    That David Copperfield picture! You can literally see the jacket going out of fashion. No argument, Phiz is less of a leap than a Twain illustrator :)
     
  11. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Spot on. Many Phiz and Boz illos hark back to earlier times.
     
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