Max Moreau portrait - need advice

Discussion in 'Art' started by Amy Gaer, Jul 15, 2023.

  1. Amy Gaer

    Amy Gaer New Member

    891D3A4E-5A67-4BFF-93A9-0ED6146058FB.jpeg EC5B1EDA-737B-4751-BD1D-C950863B2604.jpeg 15703113-DEB2-448B-AF64-6BF02E5F4853.jpeg 9E1367ED-C9F7-4AD9-9953-D98EF95FD056.jpeg 4A8D144A-9D92-4A13-B2F8-1F6C6A541E45.jpeg 891D3A4E-5A67-4BFF-93A9-0ED6146058FB.jpeg I acquired this portrait today and I believe it is original art. I have no information about it from who I got it from.

    Looking for help to identify if it is original and if so who I should turn for appraisal.

    Looking for any advice… thank you!

    Sorry the glass is full of dirt but photos are attached. Overall frame size is 26.5”x36.5”
     
  2. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Don't see any reason why it wouldn't be original. He was commissioned to do a lot of portraits. Unless of a celebrity, doubtful they have as much collector interest as his Orientalist work. He worked a lot with gouache on paper which may be what your work is.

    Debora
     
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  4. Amy Gaer

    Amy Gaer New Member

    Thank you! I do believe it could be Gouache. I do see a portrait listed online for $4500 smaller in scale. I agree it isn’t a collector piece but for decorative value (especially if someone is getting 4500 for it online) I wonder what it could fetch and who I should turn to to sell it?

    I’m in small town Wi and don’t know if any real art galleries…
     
  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    No one is getting $4,500 for a portrait online. That's an asking price, not a sales price. (Assume you're referring to this portrait.)

    https://www.blueiris-irisbleu.com/product-page/portrait-of-young-girl-gouache-painting-by-max-moreau

    I would suspect the resale value of a school girl portrait would be quite low. It's my understanding that collectors are more interested in portraits of pretty, young children or pretty, young women. If you can identify the sitter, there may be some family interest. (To do so, you would have to carefully open up the backing, making sure to preserve the gallery sticker, and see if the name of the sitter is written inside.) It's not unlikely though that it was put on the market when the original sitter died and no family member wanted her portrait.

    Debora
     
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  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Q. do you luv the work...or just the name ?

    I wouldn't hang either of these portraits in my home , if you paid me.

    I find the artist to be very skilled.....but these two works while pensive at best , seem sad and sour.

    & I have no emotional connection to either......... as only a family member might.
     
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  8. Amy Gaer

    Amy Gaer New Member

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  9. Amy Gaer

    Amy Gaer New Member

    I love your opinion, would be exactly what my mother would say! Lol. I actually spent over 16 years as a portrait photographer so I have a connection with it and a curiosity around it. I love the technique he used to finish the edges. Plus, I’m not a wealthy person and am trying my hardest to find any original pieces to put on my walls instead of mass production art from Target like everyone else my age is doing at the moment.

    I see it a bonus that it isn’t a relative or someone I know because if I do grow tired of it I can easily sell it or pass it on.
     
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  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    love what you sell !

    Today anyone can sell anything online........but if you have joy in the items you own, passing that on to others is rewarding !!:hungry::hungry:

    I passed on some big names, because the work didn't captivate me , and bought and sold many lesser names....because the work touched me in a way I could explain to the buyer.......and get them all hot & bothered too !!:happy::happy:

    Some may consider that a fault.....& there's room for debate.......but I never bought or sold anything that I didn't have an emotional connection to !

    Even today...some of my favourite works....that I just can't let go of.....are not the most expensive works I've ever owned !!!
    & a few aren't worth much at all !!:wideyed:

    don't discount original prints....as not being OOAK , in favour of a painting....that does not speak to you !;)
     
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  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    It may have been commissioned somewhere else and sitter's family returned to Milwaukee and had framed. I enjoy portraits too. Delighted you're going to hang and enjoy. Bonus that attractively matted and framed.

    Debora
     
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  12. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I see a number of Parisian street scenes signed by the artist and dated 1959. Perhaps your portrait was commissioned there.

    Debora
     
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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    the one in the original post ??????

    with the roached frame and cracked glass...?????

    really?
     
  14. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Yep. The glass can be replaced. The frame can be improved with a bit of tlc. But importantly -- original, period correct and appropriate for the work. (Look how the mat color matches the background.) And the proportion of work to mat to frame is lovely.

    Debora
     
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  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    you see things very differently than I do...
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    She does look very sad.:( Her parents probably forced her to sit, because having painted portraits of one's children was the thing to do.
    But I can understand your interest from a portrait photographer's viewpoint.
     
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  17. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Her eyes have a natural, slightly exaggerated bend at the bottom which makes her look sad.

    Debora

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  18. Amy Gaer

    Amy Gaer New Member

    Debra,
    couldn’t agree more! Thank you for your thoughtful reply!
     
  19. Amy Gaer

    Amy Gaer New Member

    Agree. I also think her age spans between 10-14. In person she sometimes looks like a very young girl and other she looks like a young teen. Either way we are calling her “The Young Secretary” and she’ll hang in the office of our 1960’s cottage colonial.
     
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  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    To me it is mainly the way the head is tilted, and her forward sloping shoulders.
    I am used to that shape eyes, my mother had them too. She used to call them "Greek eyes".
     
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