Meissen 5" busts but who are these two?

Marie Antoinette & Socrates ............maybe?

 

Definitely not Socrates. Since we have no contemporary images of him, literary descriptions that liken him to a satyr have led to the conventional depiction:



Meissen Guy looks more like Moses or Poseidon.

This seller says it's an allegorical figure of Winter:

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/d...t-emblematic-winter-circa-1750/id-f_19260882/

 

So perhaps she is Spring or Summer. Here they are as a pair, the man with dark hair & beard:

https://www.lot-art.com/auction-lot...ain-Busts/275-meissen_porcelain-21.3.21-amero

 

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/137248762_meissen-four-seasons-porcelain-figurine-collection

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-4201520

 

I don't think these are Meissen. Hope I'm wrong. Can you get a clear photo of the mark?

 

Their 'pedestals' are longer on yours, @sunday silence, and he's had a repair to his base....is his beard maybe dark because that too might have some sort of repair???? Just a quick comparison....we know they're not identical anyhoo.....

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I think you're right. None of the Meissen busts I've seen have that squarish base that we see on the ones I posted.