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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 12333539, member: 5833"]This is much larger than I imagined. Smaller than the originals, at least twice the size of what we usually mean in English when we call a painting a miniature. This is large enough to preserve a high level of detail, no matter how the image is reproduced, if it is done well.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is <i>una cornice barocca</i>:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]553815[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The frames on your pieces are relatively plain. If the frame on the Good Shepherd is relevant to the date of that picture, what does the same frame say about the Vigee-Le Brun? How did there come to be 2 pictures the same size in the same style of frame?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I have this picture on the wall of my living room. It is much smaller than the original, but not a miniature. I inherited it & it has been in my family for generations:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]553816[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The original is in the Museum of Fine Arts Boston. I see many others for sale on the Internet, but not one exactly like mine. Should I be exploring whether the one on my wall has importance to art history?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Are your pictures under glass? I was not able to tell from the photos.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If there is glass on the front & they are sealed on the back with opaque cardboard, how are you able to discern layers, or know that the yellow is translucent resin? And how did you determine the cardboard is hand made?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is not at all a certainty. A large proportion of the questions we receive here, perhaps even the majority, about all different sorts of things of all different ages, is, "Does anyone here know who made this?" We receive many such questions regarding paintings & prints.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will repeat/clarify some things I said in a previous post.</p><ul> <li>Hand painted copies of famous paintings, in reduced sizes, were made in great numbers. It is perfectly possible that your pictures are also hand painted. We have seen such paintings sometimes signed with the name of the actual painter; sometimes falsely signed with the name of the original artist; most often not signed at all. Sometimes framed pictures have a signature hidden by the frame.</li> <li>Inability to find on, or even the complete absence of, any specific item on the Internet proves nothing. This is another question we receive frequently: "Can anyone find another just like this one?"</li> </ul><p>There are still many questions & questionable assumptions here. If you feel a special rapport with the Boy, you should value & enjoy that, & treasure the connection with your family's history. Beyond that, as Iconodule said, you need an expert who can examine them in person. We would be interested to hear what you learn, to increase our own knowledge.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 12333539, member: 5833"]This is much larger than I imagined. Smaller than the originals, at least twice the size of what we usually mean in English when we call a painting a miniature. This is large enough to preserve a high level of detail, no matter how the image is reproduced, if it is done well. This is [I]una cornice barocca[/I]: [ATTACH=full]553815[/ATTACH] The frames on your pieces are relatively plain. If the frame on the Good Shepherd is relevant to the date of that picture, what does the same frame say about the Vigee-Le Brun? How did there come to be 2 pictures the same size in the same style of frame? I have this picture on the wall of my living room. It is much smaller than the original, but not a miniature. I inherited it & it has been in my family for generations: [ATTACH=full]553816[/ATTACH] The original is in the Museum of Fine Arts Boston. I see many others for sale on the Internet, but not one exactly like mine. Should I be exploring whether the one on my wall has importance to art history? Are your pictures under glass? I was not able to tell from the photos. If there is glass on the front & they are sealed on the back with opaque cardboard, how are you able to discern layers, or know that the yellow is translucent resin? And how did you determine the cardboard is hand made? This is not at all a certainty. A large proportion of the questions we receive here, perhaps even the majority, about all different sorts of things of all different ages, is, "Does anyone here know who made this?" We receive many such questions regarding paintings & prints. I will repeat/clarify some things I said in a previous post. [LIST] [*]Hand painted copies of famous paintings, in reduced sizes, were made in great numbers. It is perfectly possible that your pictures are also hand painted. We have seen such paintings sometimes signed with the name of the actual painter; sometimes falsely signed with the name of the original artist; most often not signed at all. Sometimes framed pictures have a signature hidden by the frame. [*]Inability to find on, or even the complete absence of, any specific item on the Internet proves nothing. This is another question we receive frequently: "Can anyone find another just like this one?" [/LIST] There are still many questions & questionable assumptions here. If you feel a special rapport with the Boy, you should value & enjoy that, & treasure the connection with your family's history. Beyond that, as Iconodule said, you need an expert who can examine them in person. We would be interested to hear what you learn, to increase our own knowledge.[/QUOTE]
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