Featured Miniature portraits

Discussion in 'Art' started by Frank, Apr 5, 2020.

  1. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    I've had these miniature portraits for years. Before they came to me, they belonged to my grandmother. I have no idea who they are, or their origin. On close examination, the first appears to be a transfer with hand-painted details and is either on very thin ivory or celluloid, so I'm guessing it dates to sometime between 1910 - 1930ish. Again, that's only a guess. It doesn't have a glass cover, and as far as I know it never has.

    The second is on a translucent substrate that also may be either celluloid or very thin ivory. There is some back painting on this one, and there are some flaking issues on the front. I think it may be a bit older than the other, but I don't have a feel for how old it might be. This one does have a slightly domed glass cover hand cut to fit the frame.

    I noticed there were some other miniatures posted recently, so I thought I'd share mine. P1180425.JPG P1180430.JPG P1180427.JPG 2.jpg P1180433.JPG
     
  2. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    They look like antique decorative prints to me
     
  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The first one is definitely a print; I can see the dots from here. The second is too, more likely than not.
     
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  4. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    I agree that the first is a print, even though it has some hand-applied paint and detail.

    The second, on every close magnification, has no dot pattern, but does have discernible brush strokes, and there are spots of flaking paint. I don't believe the second to be a print. That being said, I'm not an expert, and may be wrong.
     
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  5. lizjewel

    lizjewel Active Member

    Script inscription: Mlle Sophie Arnauld or Arnould? Possibly her portrait.
     
  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  7. lizjewel

    lizjewel Active Member

    @Debora: I think the inscription was/is on the other older miniature of the lady in the blue dress, given the life time of Mlle Arnould as described on Wiki. I am not sure that the other portrait is of the same lady. It looks a lot more modern, as in 100 years or so later.
     
  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Just went back to look and Mlle Arnould is inscribed on portrait with pierced frame. The original work was by Jean-Baptiste Greuze and is entitled 'Portrait of a Lady.'

    Debora
     
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  9. lizjewel

    lizjewel Active Member

    Great, you checked it. The other portrait does not seem to be identified as her anywhere. I took a quick look thru Images on French google. Had it been her there'd have been that image, it wasn't there. The Big Hat portrait was shown numerous times, sometimes with a variation in the smile! Greuze, the artist, painted in a more modern style than was common in the mid-to-late 18th cent. Only Elizabeth Vigee-LeBrun came close to that style, big hat, coy smile, etc.
     
  10. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    @Frank , could you upload a photo of the back of the portrait of the lady in blue? (The second portrait you posted.) It may or may not provide any help.
     
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