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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Bronwen, post: 406539, member: 5833&quot;]Continuing that train of thought, John Wiseheart was born in 1802.&nbsp; His dad was not in the business.&nbsp; Could he have had his own establishment when he was any younger than 20?&nbsp; Trying to bracket the time period, maybe 1825 - 1845?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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