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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;afantiques, post: 69197, member: 25&quot;]They both appear to be lady&#039;s size watches, which are fairly common and generally sell for about the gold metal value. They have Swiss barred cylinder movements of typical form. The key wind example is about 1870, the top wind example around 1890 - 1910.</p><p>I notice the cuvette of the 18k example is base metal. Typically these watches were made of relatively little gold compared with British or American gold cases, just enough to be strong enough. I&#039;d expect the gold weight of the 18k example to be about 10 grams.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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